ew

If you want your hands to be warm don't buy these. I'd say these are good down to like 40. Down to 21 degrees as rated, absolutely no way.

No place to wipe snot that's comfortable to the nose. Inadequate material dedicated to the place where your hand wraps around the hood.

Otherwise nice, well made and good fit although I think the gripper material on the palms is a bit overkill, causes the gloves to move around on the hands a bit when it sticks to the bar tape. I do like the fact there's virtually no hand padding.

Hand padding on gloves. Why would you ever if you want a good feel of your bike.

I thought I'd like these because of the simple styling and my past experience with PI stuff. I think the chamois is good. The straps, however, are tight, I thought they'd loosen a bit but they didn't. The strap design is also more overall like than most of the other brands where they run something up the middle of your back and then spread at the shoulders. I think the strap design on these bib shorts is inferior.

The stitching on the underside of the straps is also course, or the overlay of the red material is too blunt because they snagged on my base layer, not huge just irritating and poor execution.

The killer is that either through ineffective leg grippers or poor design, or the straps being too tight and unforgiving the legs on these ride up very quickly and then you get bunching where you need it least making them unusable for me.

This really shouldn't be that hard people. Straps should be smooth to the body and their job isn't to hold things up with force but to just keep the waist contacting your body.

Legs need to be long enough, tight enough and with sufficiently good gripper material so the legs stay in place.

My search goes on.

They look super bulky on the web site but I couldn't imagine they really are given how all other PI gloves look in pictures. Surprise, they are really bulky.

Pretty much as bulky as ski gloves, maybe really warm, I'll never know, returning. Priced like quality ski gloves but not as nice in my opinion.

I got a pair of these gloves and the fit is very nice, materials and construction seem good, not too bulky but sufficiently insulated. I'm riding hard so when it's below 45 I need a little insulation but anything bulky gets too warm very quickly.

The elastic they put around the wrists of these gloves, however, is not the same diameter and way too tight on the left so I'm needing to return. I'm pretty sure cutting the blood off from your hands is not a good way to keep them warm. I'm ordering another pair, along with Pearl Pro soft shell, to see if they're made better but with the lame wrist elastic and super high cuff I think CRAFT has a revision to do on this one. Generally a big CRAFT fan.

I'm between sizes on the CRAFT sizing sheet but the M is perfect and small way too small. I'm in-between on most craft sizing sheets but the bigger choice, I'm learning, is always better for me.

The fit is very good, could maybe be a tiny bit longer in the front. It does exactly what it's supposed to do, blocks wind, breaths and allows you to easily shed heat with a slight unzip if you're on a big climb. A few upgrades would make it perfect for me:

1. The zipper is a bit fussy in the transition between the top and the kink between your neck and chest but maybe that's a function of the material and the fit, quality zipper for sure.

2. The pocket in the back is not good, it's too big and deep so it's tough to get stuff out especially with the bulky zipper flap. A better design would be to use a standard 3 pocket approach maybe made out something different than the jacket, something that stretches a bit, mesh maybe. I hate the pocket. Could maybe line one of the pockets with something water resistant and have a zipper or some velcro on that one pocket.

3. Some small mesh pit holes placed out of the wind might help it regulate temperature better.

4. Could maybe be cut for a bit more forward lean. I sometimes have to shrug my shoulders to get it to come up a bit so I'm not getting resistance across the back.

Very limited wind flap.

Comfortable, super nice material and it does exactly what it's supposed to do; keeps you warm and dry but allows you to easily shed heat if too much builds inside your shell. I wear this under a GORE Contest AS and it's a really nice combo.

It is a too warm above like 45 degrees for me.

For me I actually went with the larger size between the 2 that might have fit.

I don't own a lot of CRAFT stuff but my limited experience tells me it's the best. Made well, fits, comfortable, works well. You just find the right size and start using, no worries. I'll be looking to CRAFT first from now on.

Collar too tight and no give, zipper not structured enough to move with one hand. Material really flops in the wind on descents. Doesn't really feel like it's cut for a bicycling position. Does keep you cool.

I'm a pretty big fan of PI. I own 2 pair of the previous version of the PRO shorts, they are very good. When I bought the first pair I just put them on and rode, no problems ever. The chamois is a bit thick but kind of packs down over time and I've never experienced any sort of discomfort from it. Bought the 2nd pair, same deal. Good.

Thought I'd get another set and decided on the latest and greatest. There are some improvements: better waist band, better chamois. They look great and are made as well as you'd expect them to be.

However, something is wrong with these shorts that forced me to send them back. Either they are cutting them smaller, the new material doesn't give as much, or the new panel pattern is just wrong because I found them to be so restrictive that I fought them the whole ride.

After my ride I had seam imprints in my legs for like an hour. My legs were achy which doesn't happen to me, I ride 3-5 x/week.

I called PI and the guy said maybe I had the wrong size. I don't. He also said they may just feel different with the new material but shouldn't stretch out. They do feel different, and to the point that I won't ever put them on again.

They took the joy out of my ride and I believe that pretty much says it all.

Material is too course for me to be worn next to skin. Good sizing. Quality build. Also, for me adding a layer never makes me cooler.

High quality just like any other PI product. Personally I think they make the best stuff for the money. Fit is more loose than what might be considered traditional for road biking.