Purchased these for the days where wearing shorts might be a bad idea but not needing thermals. Out of the package they seem pretty nice. The mesh liner is good. The fit is perfect and the elastic waist straps add even more secure fit. They seem more downhill oriented mainly due to the fabric. Just walking in them gets annoying with the noise. Haven't done any pedalling in them yet. One giant flaw to me is the only two pockets. The front left pocket seems like it's made to maybe hold a Kleenex and that's it. While the right leg, side pocket tightly hold my Galaxy S7 without the headphone jack. Having my phone and music is a huge part of my riding, so that kind of sucks. Overall, they seem like alright pants for the price and brand. Hopefully TLD gets the hint on making pockets usable.