I did a back to back test with these bad boys, actual clipless shoes, and an old pair of vans. I honestly forgot at one point that these weren't clipped in and tried to pull up on the pedal in a sprint; they are that sticky. They are much stiffer and offer more support than a traditional skate shoe, and the grip on the pedals is soo confidence inspiring and nice its night and day. Highly Highly recommend. I'm making the switch from clipless after (among other things) falling down the spine on the Wasatch Crest Trail due to not getting a foot out. No need to add insult to injury by being attached to your bike and having it attack you on your way down as well If you need further inspiration to switch to flats, check out the relatively common injury on google wherein which peoples handlebars rupture their femoral artery after their bike attacks them from being clipped in.