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Quite a substantial tube
The most complete Camelback tube that I've ever used. Keeps the water from getting too hot in the sun, which is convenient. And the mouthpiece cover does its job and more.
Anybody know if the neoprene sleeve could...
Anybody know if the neoprene sleeve could be transferred to my Osprey pack, or if there are other neoprene options that could work?
Believe me, removing and installing the sleeve is freaking painful. Not a process you want to go through. On the underside of that sleeve is sticky foam that holds the hose extremely well. Finding an insulated Camelbak setup that would fit your Osprey or adapting this hose to the Osprey bladder would seem to be the way to go.
CamelBak Thermal Control Kit
This will not keep water from freezing by itself. I bought this for the insulated hose section. The rubber cap is practically useless, I feel it attracts the cold more than repel it. The insulation on the hose however works in both the summer and winter time. With some modification it can work extremely well.
My water hose modification:
With this hose, I then added an on/off valve with a detachable mouthpiece. This alone works 10 times better for not freezing/warming as quickly as the rubber cap on here. For winter use, I then have an insulated hose sleeve on the shoulder of my Osprey pack. By adding the on/off valve, the combined hose insulation and the insulated sleeve on my pack have prevented me from having to chew on the hose to break up the ice. With the on off valve I no longer have to worry about water dripping out of the hose, secretly soaking me during the winter or draining my water during the summer.
Works as advertised. Love it
could you use it with CamelBak Tube Director...
could you use it with CamelBak Tube Director at same time?
Better than nothing.
I use this with my North Face backpack which has a shoulder insulation. With the combination of both I haven't had too many problems with freezing, especially once we start climbing for a while and body heat keeps everything pretty warm. There have been occasions where the water in the line froze, 5ºF/-15ºC outside temp range. Solution during those days is just to blow the water back into the bladder. A big disadvantage for me was the lack of a valve, but I just transferred one from my other hose on there.
The bite valve cover on this unit (WILL NOT) fit over the(Straight)Camelback Ergo Hydrolock shut off valve..Disappointed, because I was told it would....
Essential Winter Gear
Snowshoeing in -30 degree weather, your tube will freeze even if you blow back the water, unless you have this kit. With the kit, and blowing the water back each time, you're fine all day long. I keep it on year 'round, since the bite-valve cover keeps it clean in the summer, and it does add a bit of cooling effect versus the uninsulated tube, preventing that first gulp of warm water in warmer weather. For anyone using a real backpack, there is no problem threading it through any opening you'll encounter. All-in-all, fine equipment: essential for winter, a nicety for summer
Not impressed with the insulation but haven't found anything better yet
its keep water cold but leaks a little if the mouthpeace in lower than the bad it drips very little water but love it its 130 out side and water stay cold
Every once in a while I think, oh it won't be so cold, I'll try using the insulated camelbak again.
And no matter how vigilant I am I can't keep the tube from freezing and am then to lazy to dig the bladder out of my pack to drink straight from it.
Nothing wrong with the high tech method of keeping a plastic gatorade bottle inside my jacket.
Got this for my first halfdome hike two years ago to keep my water cool. After reading these reviews looks like I got it for the wrong reason, but it kept the water that was in the tube cool. Still fit my purposes.
This is a waste of money and time. I saw no benefit with installing this. Water froze in the tube and in the bite valve in mild temps even when blowing the water out after drinking. You also loose the on/off valve with this product.
Generally works until temp gets low
I was at Alta on Friday where the top temp was 6 and the tube froze solid while outside on my back (using old 70oz bladder which remained liquid throughout the day). At some temp (probably around low teens), you have to put the tube inside your clothing which begs the question, why buy this thing at all.
Not so great
I planned on using this for a two week backcountry trip in Japan. It seemed like a great idea, but in reality the mouthpiece was either frozen or leaking. After a couple of days of being incredibly thirsty or wet, I went back to using a water bottle.
Can't get the bite valve to fit back on the tubing if the rubber cover is on it. It will fit without the cover, but the whole point I got this was to keep the valve and tube from freezing.
what is the easiest way to remove the...
what is the easiest way to remove the original tube from the resivor to get this tube on?
If the original has never been removed it can be little tight. Run the attachment point under some cold water, grab the tube near the attachment point to the bladder and give it a good pull. To put the new one on I usually just get the ends wet and push it on while giving it little 1/4 turns back and forth.
I think for what you are getting it is quite expensive. the mouth piece is very large and difficult to thread through the camelbak to get into position. Also difficult to remove the cap with ski gloves on. i found the tubing very long, but then i am very short so that could just be my problem. Overall the insulation does work well if you are out in the cold weather. Its a great idea but over prices for what it is.
Better than not having it
We all know in the below freezing temperatures it is almost impossible to keep that line from freezing, this will definitely help, but not stop the inevitable. While a bit pricey for something so simple, if you have the extra $15 and want a little help in the winter, get it. Otherwise blowing into the bite valve until the water in the tube is all resting in the Camelbak reservoir, works equally as well..and its free.
This is to keep the water in your tube from freezing in cold weather, not to keep your water cool in warm weather. You got it bass ackwards man!