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February 24, 2010

I recently recieved my Pegoretti Ciavete form you after a 21+ month wait. I have a Colnago C-50, and a Pegoretti 2008 Duende. I ordered a stock 52cm frame set on both Pegoretti's. With a little stem and saddle adjustments they are wonderful rides. Especially the Responsorium. It is the bike of dreams. I find your decision to not sell the Pegorreti any longer for the reasons you stated quite valid. Custom fit and paint is much over thought. The ride is what matters. Pegoretti is perhaps on of the best steel frame builders alive. Have a little faith.
- Bill, Sarasota,Fl

January 31, 2010

You should give a shout out to Cycles BiKyle in PA as a source for Pegoretti. Great shop.Bud
- Bud, Elkns Park PA

January 26, 2010

Stock sizes these days are a joke. S, M, L, XL is BS. I long for the days gone by where "stock" frames were normally available from 50-62 cm in 1 cm increments. These days I've got to ride a between size because of this crap. MTB frame sizing is responsible for this debacle.
- REG, SF CA

January 18, 2010

Sorry to see them go entirely, as opposed to ceasing to take custom orders.
- Al, Boink

January 17, 2010

I've been complaining about the rumble strips in Tennessee for a while. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the danger in them. The ones here are CRAZY. They're actually ON the white line, not on the shoulder, and they're the roughest (deepest) rumble strips I've ever seen! (Almost lost control of my bike once because of 'em!) So the choice I have is to either ride in the road, or to ride....in the road (while getting constantly honked at!) Can't figure out why they won't put up a few "Share the Road" signs either. It's crazy.
- Scott, Sparta, TN

January 16, 2010

i don't understand those pavement references, can you Type Slowly? ;)
- richard_mutt, nyc

January 14, 2010

I had a ride over the weekend where i found a new rumble strip just installed up here outside of Philadelphia. It presented me with a bad choice: ride in the traffic late where the pavement is clear and smooth or ride deep in the shoulder where the pavement has holes and cracks and there's lots debris. Timely comment!
- Eric , wayne pa

January 14, 2010

Just pretend the rumble strips are pave in the crooked rain.
- S. Malkmus, Stockton, CA

January 13, 2010

So if dealing with the customers who want custom is the biggest challenge in selling Peg's (you dedicated 6 paragraphs to it).....why not sell stock sizes? Oh never mind...I see the one paragraph that mentions what appear to be the root causes behind the decision...long lead times and price volatility. Well written...just seems to be a disproportionate explanation.
- Sean, Rogers, AR

January 13, 2010

Re this week's title -- do I detect a Pavement reference?
- Nate, Berkeley

January 13, 2010

Look at the saddle/stem differential on Mike Barry and David Millar's bikes - even their off-season bikes are totally slammed: maybe the 6cm-of-spacers-bars-at-the-same-height-as-the-saddle-extended-headtube babies can shut up about 'my back hurts'; 'it's more comfortable this way' and just loose some weight and ride more....babies....
- Roadent, Toronto

January 13, 2010

Pedant's corner - Whence means 'from where', no need for the other 'from'. Sorry, I just can't help myself. Hours of deliberation went into deciding whether to correct a blog I enjoy so much. It's just.... good writing tarnished. Oh. I'm over it now.
- David, Kettering, GB

January 12, 2010

Here in Wyoming, we're plagued by rumble strips. One thing I've always wondered - the strips seem to hasten pavement breakdown, leading to the need for more frequent re-paving. Since every DOT cries poor (particularly when asked for cycling-related funding) wouldn't eliminating the strips make sense?
- Carson, Jackson Hole, Wyo.

January 12, 2010

i wonder when cc will be offering its own custom frames a la made by waterford and painted for competitive cyclist.
- sam, little rock

January 12, 2010

By dropping Pegoretti, CC now has exactly zero steel frames in their road lineup. How sad.
- PawleeWalnutz, NYC

January 12, 2010

Rumble strip? Up here the fog line - what the white line is called - marks where the road ends. Go over it and you're in the grass or worse. How about the six-foot drop-off marked with a "low shoulder" sign on my favorite ride? Shoulders are for freeways and bicycles are not permitted. Where does your state get the money for the rumble strips anyway? Can you send some of it up this way just to fix the road surface? My rides are as rough as your rumble strips.
- Joe, Ann Arbor, MI

January 12, 2010

I've Been a fan of this site since my first purchase. I must say your break-ups (Merckx-Pegoretti-Colnago etc.) and for that matter your hook-ups (Bianchi-Wilier etc) are always worthy reading.
- Luke, Chicago

January 12, 2010

Anybody in Auckland, NZ, go down to Queen street and take a picture of the median next to the movie theatre and send to Competitive Cyclist so they can see it. It's a great design, and it kinda cracks me up since the driver obviously kept his speed up while applying the paint. The round dots look more like little "froglets...", than round blobs... A long stream of ode to life running along main street...
- AM, Dubai, UAE

January 11, 2010

Guys, you need to start lobbying the state to re-think the rumble strip design. My job is to travel the world, so I've seen my fair share. The best solution is a solid white line created by applying small goblets of white paint, instead of a solid line. From an angle it appears to be solid, but have three advantages: 1. Saves on paint. 2. Increases the reflective surface of the line for added visibility. 3. Makes your car rumble if you cross the line. I've seen them in many places, but predominately in Australia and New Zealand, both on median markers, and shoulder strips.
- AM, Dubai, UAE

January 11, 2010

Spell check :) Kierkegaardian
- Kevin, San Diego

January 11, 2010

Di a sixty mile ride home from a business meeting last summer and had to do 15 miles on route 13 in Ohio going south from Sandusky in a 3 foot shoulder with a rumble strip. It was either a drainage ditch on my right or semi trucks on my left. Not fun, not relaxing. But I'll tell you one thing, homeboy sure learned to hold his line and look down the road.
- Jay, Mansfield, Ohio

January 11, 2010

From what I can piece together about Micky's rant the issue is merchandising vs. grass roots activism. Point partially taken, but how large a percentage of site traffic comes to CC to specifically read this blog? I thought so.
- Jim, SF

January 11, 2010

Or you can train for Roubaix on these strips....
- Matt, San Diego

January 11, 2010

Here in Australia the rumble strip is part of that line of paint down the side of the road. Same effect on cars, but leaves the shoulder free for cyclists... And you'd think it would catch wandering drivers quicker too.
- Atomic Kitten, Melbourne, Australia

January 11, 2010

We have rumble strips too, but all are on 4 lane highways with a shoulder. Putting rumble strips on a two lane with no shoulder (your picture?) is a really bad idea for cyclists and has to increase your risk tremendously. I'm actually surprised the highway department is allowed to do this. Obviously you can't move very far to the right to let cars pass. Really bad idea.
- Merlin, Amarillo

January 11, 2010

Rumble strips on the yellow line are far worse than those on the white line. Drivers try to give a wide berth while passing, hit the rumble strips on the yellow lines, get startled and veer right- right towards you
- jon, milford, pa

January 11, 2010

A lot of you guys need to take yourselves less seriously. To Joe (pounding on Correia), you don't know shit. I know him, and I know why he's there. It's not because he is on the juice. It's because he is a talented rider, and knows more about commerce than you do. And a news flash - team Cervelo exists to sell more bikes - SHOCKER! To those pounding on Bicycling - God forbid we put out the welcome mat to Doctors, lawyers, and average people to ride a bike. The guy who runs Bicycling has been riding a bike longer than 90% of you, loves the sport, and would like more people to ride. And he'd kick your ass in a field sprint. Have a nice day.
- Tom, Mount Kisco

January 11, 2010

The right click, is much appreciated, thanks. In my area the rumble strips are usually in conjunction with very wide shoulders. I can see where they would be a PITA on a narrow shoulder but here they are a nice barrier between me and the cars.
- Glen, Afton

January 11, 2010

Rumble strips have been around for at least 10 years and they're not going away, but they should be properly installed. Here's what the Federal Highway Administration (the folks forked over the money to the state DOT to build the road) say in 1999 about rumble strips and bicycles: + A minimum clear path of 0.3 m (1 ft) from the rumble strip to the traveled way. + 1.2 m (4 ft) from the rumble strip to the outside edge of paved shoulder (or 1.5 m (5 ft) to an adjacent guardrail, curb, or other obstacle). + Rumble strips should only be installed when an adequate unobstructed width of paved surface remains available for bicycle use. If your state's DOT is installing rumble strips according to this spec... great! If not, then contact your state or local bike advocacy organization.
- Mark, Washington DC

January 11, 2010

RE: Correia. How are we supposed to look at this as anything but magazine bigwig and ex-decent racer get's jacked on drugs and scores a couple of big pro results? Portugal, for chrissakes it's still the wild west there. Entire TEAMS coming up positive for EPO. Some of the most talented pro-tour bound young riders can't crack the top 40 of a GC in Portugal. So a magazine guy wins a Portugese championship and scores a pro ride after 10 years behind a desk? Please.
- Joe, Portland

January 11, 2010

In Pennsylvania, we are seeing a lot of rumble strips being put in medians, which encourage drivers to not cross the median when passing a cyclist, leading sideswipes and plenty of close calls.
- Alex, Philly

January 11, 2010

Oh how I love the training bikes! Not sure where this obsession comes from, maybe it's when the bike passes over the point of bourgeois and becomes utilitarian that gets me. Like a well worn axe built to do the job at hand with no superfluous. I could get lost for days on a site strictly dedicated to nothing but trainers. I'll be adding the BS site to the daily reader, so thanks for that.
- J$, ATX

January 11, 2010

Great stuff, as always and the last part about the rumble strips is dead on. What a great creation to keep drivers safer and what a great way to fuck up a perfectly good road.
- Brenton, Philly

January 11, 2010

I can now right click and open links ina new tab. thanks guys
- Mike, PA

January 11, 2010

Texas has quite a bit of rumble strip, but usually it's one of two things - either built into the white line or they have 11' shoulders. Going back home to Arkansas I see what you've pictured - a 3 or 4 foot shoulder with a rumble strip right in the middle. I wish they'd take their cutter right up on the white line like other states instead of in the middle, ruining lots of good cycling space. Sadly, this is especially true on the more beautiful roads.
- Adam, Austin, TX (via Altus, AR)