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August 06, 2009
So do you work for Velo News on the side? There are a few cycling news sites out there better than smello news as we call it here in Boulder or CN. Get a life dude. I imagine you didn't make any friends at CN after all you don't buy advertising there you offer an "associates program" and pay a pittance of a % to sites that carry your ad...yet you belly ache like you are forking out thousands in advertising dollars... what a weenie.
- Jean Francois , Boulder
July 26, 2009
You can respect the accomplishments and not the man. Greg puts us in a situation where we can no longer do both.
- freedog, san diego
July 19, 2009
Cyclingnews is totally unusable. & like Windows Mobile you have drill back to the old site design to find anything. I the layout is confusing, getting to the various articles difficult & the overall site design is why I stayed on Cyclingnews.com rather than bikeradar (which, of course, is what it's now become) for so long. Too bad.
- Anthony, Napa
July 03, 2009
Can someone please edit the comments James from Silverthorne. Actually, no, keep 'em up so google will cache it and everyone will see how silly the comments are. James, it's called aerodynamics - lance puts a lot of research into it, too. You see, the more aero a ride gets in a TT the fast her goes (all else being equal). Add to that LeMond was clearly stronger in the last week and it's no mystery. James, you serve as an example of why internet comments are sometimes a mistake.
- Tom, DC
July 03, 2009
Actually it was a guy by the name of Bill Mitchell, I believe a professor of economics at Newcastle University, who "built" Cyclingnews. I remember discovering the website, using a text browser called Mosaic, back in about 1994 or 1995 and it was like finding cycling nirvana! Bill eventually sold to Gerard Knapp's publishing company in 1999. Gerard had ties to cycling and hired a guy named Jeff Jones to run the site. They did a great job of keeping Mitchell's legacy running while adding some features and functionality. The site grew but never lost its roots and its simplicity. Then in 2007 or 2008, Knapp sold CN to Future Publishing, the parent company of ProCycling and BikeRadar among other paper and web publications. It was obvious to me that CN would eventually become another drone site, and one look at BikeRadar makes it obvious to see that Future did not put a lot of thought into the new CN design, they just released CN in BikeRadar clothing. I am doing my best to adjust, but I find the coverage to be much less about race results and reports and much more UK tabloid oriented. I just want the news and results, simple and plain wil do, thanks. I guess my rant here can be directed at Brendan and the CC crew - be careful if you ever plan to do a CC web overhaul, things work pretty well right now and people generally seem to like the site.
- Eric, White Rock, BC
July 03, 2009
"Lance would of intended up being a TGI Friday's manager"
lol, what kind of drugs are you on?..Lance was born to be an athlete and would've easily been the 1st great american biker in europe if lemond and hampsten had never existed...
- nick, chicago
July 02, 2009
I like your insightful ruminations on all cycling things economic. Lemond v Trek is really Lemond v Armstrong/Contadour/etal; most bike buyers today don't know Lemond from a beer can on the side of the road. Armstrong/Contadour sell bikes.
Thanks for the tip to Pezcycling. I don't know how I didn't see the site.
CN is a conundrum. I don't find it all that easy to navigate. It had a simple go-to interface and, while it looks prettier now, news is no longer summarized in a single link, useless graphics take up news real estate, and it's abysmal on a PDA. I try to keep a couple of website technologically current and meaningful, and CN is big on style and ads, but short on data accessibility.
- Lindsey, Fairfield
July 02, 2009
What a real disappointment it is to read such a hated article on Greg Lemond. Greg was the first ambassador of cycling to the USA. He’s done so much to lay the groundwork for American cycling. To see that CompetitiveCyclist has taken a side in the debate against Greg Lemond is saddening. The article is pure speculation. And the author should, at least, admit that is so. There are no counterarguments to support Greg’s view. This type of sensationalist journalism has no place on a website of a bike shop catering to the public – many of whom support Greg Lemond 100%.
- Richard, Austin
July 02, 2009
I think that I would be real suspicious of a rider who came from way behind to win a final time trial and the TdF. Every time Lemond opens his mouth I want to ask him what he was taking on that particular day when he managed the impossible.
- James, Silverthorne, CO
July 02, 2009
Maybe if you were from "Big" Rock Arkansas, you would have less trouble with Portland. Get a clue. All of your pompous opinions mean little to the people of Portland, and the world.
- Billy, Clear Lake
July 02, 2009
Another vote for the Rouluer subscription.
- David, Charlotte, NC
July 02, 2009
I'll subscribe to rouleur if competitive cyclist will broker it all!
- Daus, Denver, CO
July 02, 2009
The most discouraging aspect of the Cyclingnews situation has been the complete lack of acknowledgement by the parent organization of the legitimate and well-intentioned feedback from the readership. I urge you to use whatever influence you can as an advertiser to get them to admit their problems and get back on track.
- Hans, San Francisco
July 02, 2009
Yes, on the Rouluer sub -- long overdue. Its about the only option for hard copy inspiration besides a good book. VN (the magazine) has lost it -- after more than 35 years as a subscriber I stopped my subscription. And Cycle Sport... cancelled that last year. As for CN, I was loosing interest in what they were doing before the redesign. Now they completely lost me.
- terry, fredericksburg
July 02, 2009
I would very likely sign up for a Rouleur subscription. I get them pretty much every time, and would save on the shipping. Create it and we will come!
- Tony, Arlington, TX
July 02, 2009
best doping article I've read in a long time, compares tennis with cycling;
http://www.slate.com/id/2221980/
- adam, hami
July 02, 2009
Lemond I met in Florida, when he was King Kong of the cycling world. We played Frisbe one Sunday afternoon in Coconut Grove, and the guy would throw the disc like a "Transformer Robot". He is just a" bull dog" at anything he does. But a nice and smart guy too. I know he has to suffer with all the absurdity of the world in general. Greg Lemond is a champion, the thing with Americans we forget heroes at a blink of an eye. Let me put it this way, if it wouldn't been for Andy and Greg, Lance would of intended up being a TGI Friday's manager. These 2 guys especially Lemond made the bed, for the Americans to be were their at in the world of international cycling. And about Rouler it is awesome, still trying to track issue one. I agree it is both art and cycling put together.
- nelsonian4d, New York City
July 02, 2009
Lemond has relegated himself from an American hero to an egomaniac, to the point that no one wants to hear what he has to say anymore. In my youth, I was proud and inspired that a fellow American had won the TdF, but now, I can't stand to see any journalism where he is mentioned, because I know what follows. His attacks and tactics trying to convince us all that Lance doped now only serve to cause myself, and many others, to wish he would quietly disappear, stay out of the press, and let those who once admired him hold on to the last bit of admiration we may have left. From the moment Lance won his first TdF, he has been tested countless times, not under normal scrutiny, but by people whose goal in life was to find something abnormal, and used the absolute cutting edge technology to do so. Those who wanted to catch Lance doping the most, served to provide the best evidence attainable that he raced, trained, and lived clean his entire career. If that's not enough, his performance since his return is the icing on the cake. He is still among the top ten riders in the world, after 3 years of retirement and 37 years of age. I'm sick of Lemond, and everyone else for that matter, that still contend Lance doped. He was subjected to every possible test, during every month, of every year, and he passed. That is FACT. Lance Armstrong is the greatest Tour de France champion ever, he is inspiration for millions, he has raised millions to fight cancer, and he has revived a sport that has taken some hard hits in the recent past. Lemond and the rest of the losers that claim Lance doped only serve to hurt this sport we love, and those that take such inspiration from what Lance has done. Enough is enough! PUT UP, or SHUT UP ! Lastly, I can't really blame Trek for distancing themselves from Lemond, even if he had a contract. Lemond's legacy as a bike racer is far overshadowed by his antics over the past few years, and if that's detrimental to Trek's business, they did the right thing.
- Ed, Franklin
July 02, 2009
I'm upset that the "Related Gallery" function is gone (or I am unable to find it). I want to pick what pictures to enlarge and not be required to page through them all.
- Mike, State College, PA
July 02, 2009
very interesting read
- connie, little rock
July 01, 2009
I would get a Rouler sub without question - looked into it several times but it seemed far to cumbersome.
- Bruce, Acton, MA
July 01, 2009
The Lemond thing is a TREK thing. They jetisoned him in favor of a "better thing". If TdF wins hadn't sold all those Madones, we wouldn't be discussing this. I had an offer from TREK once. I'm glad I stuck with the girlfriend (now wife). Talk about "business is business", think the comeback is about Livestrong/cancer awareness? It one part that, one part Lance's overblown ego, and 3 parts about selling Madones and SRAM to U.S. recreational cyclists.
- Jay, Needham
July 01, 2009
CN was removed from my favourites last week too. Re Lemond, Armstrong is not slow in sueing - I dare say he'll be up there with Lemond when's he's 50...still trying to maintain he won the TdF clean...Haha
- Mike, Geneva, Switzerland
July 01, 2009
Sign me up for the Rouleur Sub; BTW you are right about CN I didn't realize I actually go to VN now more till you mentioned it, hélas
- Jules, Long Beach, CA
June 30, 2009
If you don't sell me that subscription, I will see you in court. I'm from Minneapolis though, and you know who's loaded the docket ahead of us so it could take some time.
- Eric, Minneapolis
June 30, 2009
As to your comments regarding CN i hope but doubt the new owners are listening. I have found the response of the editors to the almost universally negative feedback about their site insulting to say the least. I have little hope that even the drastic decline in "referred revenue" will move them. I no longer visit multiple times a day, my cheif activity on CN now is going to the forum to read the unanswered complaints. On a bright note I now spend more time on this and other cycling websites than before. RIP cyclingnews
- Steve, Silver City NM, USA
June 30, 2009
what we have in greg lemond, is a former champion who can't stand the thought of being overshadowed by his successor, armstrong. he wants to destroy his american "rival" so he'll be left standing with his record atop the heap.
the more i hear about his litigiousness, the more absurd and disgusting he appears. what a shame. he could have had a serious post racing career with even just a smidgen of grace. i wonder if it ever occured to him that his bikes might have sold better if they were not associated with his boorishness.
- greg, NYC
June 29, 2009
"It's always healthy to check out his race resume..." Sage advice for all the pack fodder out there who now view Lemond as nothing more than some fat pantload chewing on sour grapes. He was a great racer in an era where "just" building a season around the Tour simply wouldn't cut it. A velodrome in NYC? If it happens, I'll have to develop a taste for bacon...because pigs will surely fly out of my ass.
- PawleeWalnutz, NYC, Left Turns Allowed?
June 29, 2009
Gerard Knapp was/is a bike racer and knows what it feels like to spend inordinate amounts of time on two wheels. He built CN...and we all came to the party because he inherently knew what it was that we wanted to see. The new guys, like so many new guys out there, tend to think of these things as a money making opportunity without acknowledging that real quality comes from something more than a cash investment. Its something money can't buy and they are literally paying the price it seems.
- Mike, Shanghai, China
June 29, 2009
for all you canucks looking for Rouleur in Canada, why not support your local bike shop and ask them to bring it in? Any shop that sells Rapha gear should have it available....
- michael, Vancouver
June 29, 2009
The Yellowstone Club sued Lemond, and from the article you posted, it looks like The Yellowstone club are the dirty dealers. How is that Lemond's bad?
- Robert Z., Hibbing, MN
June 29, 2009
Roleur. Yes. Lemond. Sad! It's not just a mathematical formula Greg! (watts/ vo2max!) there are intangibles like hard training, tactics, heart, etc. Just ask any USNavy SEAL.
- Jim, Troy,NY
June 29, 2009
Yes on the subscription to Roleur--good idea for a great magazine! LeMond has just embarrassed himself over & over and it's a shame....
- A.J., TAMPA
June 29, 2009
Thank you for addressing the CN issue: I am pissed. CN was the first website I turned on in the AM- even before email. And after the re-design I can't bear to go to it anymore for so many reasons from loading slow to being plain ugly. Last night I pulled it from my favorites so if you are looking at the click throughs to your site, just know that none of those will be from me as I am back on VN for my bike news. AND, I am really pissed about it.
Good call on Lemond not aging gracefully- He was/is a demi god and he was generous to his fans but he really is living up to the American stereotype of being overly litigious....but then again I cant blame him for the suit with Trek- Trek had promised him the world when he signed with them and soon after they left him high and dry.
- Georges, NYC
June 29, 2009
Definitely interested in Rouleur, since the subscription upcharge from Rapha to Canada is too large for my taste. Have you considered offering a shipping package for this magazine to the white north?
- Rod, Ottawa, ON, Canada
June 29, 2009
There are separate RSS feeds for each of the main CN sections. There have been since the new site first went up, I think? From the front page, I see the orange RSS icon at the header for the Races, News, News Editions, Features, and Latest Photos sections. However, they're Feedburner links, so they're not discoverable and don't have the icon in the address bar by Firefox- is that what's tripping you up?
- Andrew, Philadelphia
June 29, 2009
I would most definitely subscribe to roleur.
About lemond: it seems he wants to be a part of cycling but just can't find a good fit for himself. his comments at "play the game" were piss poor and if he truly wants to be a part of the anti-doping movement he needs to be more professional. If I had paid him to speak for an hour I would be demanding my money back. I think he has some ideas worth exploring but his inability to articulate and unprofessionalism will doom him to the sidelines.
- Sam, Little rock
June 29, 2009
Yes, I would subscribe to Rouleur. Good magazine and good deal.
- Mark, Oviedo, FL
June 29, 2009
You have to admit though, that Portland agency piece is pretty damn funny, hubris or no.
- Dave, SF
June 29, 2009
Yes on the Rouleur subscription. I've been putting off ordering the latest issue because I feel bad ordering a single magazine from you guys. Thought for sure there'd be some angry comments from Portland folks but then I realized hipster cyclists can only read lol speak.
- Todd, Los Angeles
June 29, 2009
yes for Rouleur for Canadians if it including shipping to Canada without additional duties/brokerage fees. That is, no UPS !! to Canada
- lawrence, halifax
June 29, 2009
I'm in for the subscription--thanks. RE: Cyclingnews.com. Yes, I am one of those that got driven more to VN because, as you said, I am just trying to find the news and the new site is all over the place. Psst, Cyclingnews: Take a clue from the WSJ--clear, easily locatable news, then you can drill deeper. Double Psst: Keep James Huang!
- Al, Monterey, CA
June 29, 2009
you are too kind to CN. I'm in the biz of making/keeping websites, and what they've done is complete fubar.
indeed there's a gap to be filled and i look forward to the growth of pez, podiumInsight et al.
- mrg, sf
June 29, 2009
Yes for rouleur !
As far as cycling news, I do not even go there anymore, my computer freaks out the very second I try loading the homepage... It is terrible and good thing is, we can now track clicking and if they have half the brain as their web designer, they will scrap the whole thing and ask for their money back... maybe the new web page was designed in Portland by an "independant" designer....
- Marc, Montreal
June 29, 2009
Yes the Rouleur subscription would be great, I requested via twitter exactly that. The direct subscription is prohibitively pricey, more than direct depending on the exchange rate. Show me where and I am in...
- oakmad, Austin
June 29, 2009
let me know when I can sign up for the rouleur subscription - I'm in.
- matthew, Washington DC
June 29, 2009
And I still haven't figured out an easy way to find a photo gallery for a given race. Sure, you can click through the photos one at a time, but me likey the gallery view -- bring it back!
- AH, Indy
June 29, 2009
The biggest differences that I've noticed with the new cyclingnews is that it's brief race results don't come out now until hours after the race has concluded and that the live updates during the Tour of Switzerland didn't work. Since it's redesign Velonews has had the same lag in results being posted. I find Pez gets them up fastest in its pictures section. /
Any relation between Lemond's dive off the deep end and Trek dropping the brand in favour of Gary Fisher?
- Adam, Hamilton
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