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The Naming of Things: A First Look at the Pinarello Dogma 2

"Running changes" are an annual right in the bike industry and there's a good reason for them. They allow manufacturers to make subtle improvements to a product while still squeezing a return from money previously spent on molds, branding, and education, to name a few things. They let retailers stock up with fresh temptations to keep the cash register humming. And for consumers it's joyous new fodder for mid-ride conversation, not to mention a boost of inspiration for those days when training seems like a chore.

laPinarello course mapFrom this, a question: When are accumulated running changes so transformative that they warrant a product name change? Take a company like Zipp, for example. Although the 2011-era 404 wheelset bears only faint resemblance to the 404's of 2005, the name has remained the same. A good idea? Based on its sales and sparkling reputation in the marketplace, the answer appears to be yes.

An interesting point of comparison is the Pinarello Dogma. When Pinarello introduced the frame in 2010, it confirmed the brand's place at the top of the hierarchy of Italian bike brands. The Dogma is aesthetically exquisite and the combination of its construction and geometry means that it rides dreamily in every situation. It quickly earned impressive palmares in the professional peloton, cementing its reputation as a race bike of the most serious order. Reviews -- whether in the media or in bike shop conversations -- affirmed that its hype was deeply supported by substance.

And now, two years later, Pinarello is following up with the all-new Dogma 2. It's a bike that, after some serious test riding, proved its extraordinary nature to me. There's no need to debate whether the Dogma 2 is the most alluring bike money can buy. If you factor in all of the variables -- curb appeal, street cred, ride quality -- it is the undisputed champion.

As lofty as this praise may be, I wonder if the Dogma 2 warrants its new name. This isn't to question the benefits of its changes. But it doesn't represent the sort of dramatic platform change often accompanied by a re-naming. Am I over-thinking this? Perhaps the mere act of adding a "2" isn't tantamount to a true re-naming. My head spins with thoughts about branding, marketing, and inventory management. Yet it's all soothed by one key fact: The sweetness of its performance on the road.

Pinarello took big steps to reduce aerodynamic drag with the Dogma 2, the most obvious a new integration between the fork and the frame. You'll see that the Dogma 2 has a fin-like extension at the trailing edge of the fork crown. It sits snugly into a notch at where the headtube and downtube meet. Add internal cable routing and the result is a 6 percent reduction in frontal drag.

Other changes with the Dogma 2 include enhanced asymmetry in the top tube and downtube to give it a boost in lateral and torsional stiffness. And in terms of nice small details, Di2 (and Campy electronic) batteries will mount on the Di2-specific Dogma 2 without a battery harness. Pinarello will have a battery mount similar to water bottle braze-ons. Say goodbye to zip-ties! And the bottom bracket guide will detach from the shell to make internal cable routing a lot easier to string up.

Pinarello Dogma 2

Pinarello Dogma 2

My Pinarello Dogma 2 test bike

Pinarello Dogma 2 - Fin for aerodynamics

Pinarello Dogma 2

Waiting for paint

The seat clamp requires the use of a T-20 Torx wrench. That's one size smaller than the Torx T-25 included on most multi-tools (for things such as disc brake rotors.) That was a not-entirely welcome surprise at first. But if you've ever stripped a seat clamp bolt mid-ride during a seat height adjustment, it's the sort of change you quickly appreciate. So if you buy a Dogma 2, prepare to spend $1 on a new wrench too --

Pinarello Dogma 2

Pinarello Dogma 2

Pinarello Dogma 2

Fausto Pinarello's ride --

Fausto's Pinarello Dogma 2

The testing grounds for the Dogma 2 was the La Pinarello Cycling Marathon. A hundred things during the day reminded me that I wasn't back in the US. The majesty (and beastliness) of Monte Grappa was one of them. Others included the goodies such as sliced figs and homemade pastries at the rest stations, as well as the strangers you'd meet at passing through those rest stations --

Italian rest stop

Possoni - Team Sky

DS Car - Grandfondo Pinarello

One final highlight was our first in-person look at Campagnolo electronic. What I learned was the following: (1) The chances that this will be released in 2012 is seemingly nil. Pinarello has the only current sample available in the world, and it didn't appear to be a working sample. (2) The shift buttons seem to rely on your thumb, in a not-dissimilar fashion as mechanical Ergopower. At least at first glance it didn't have the same cleanness as Shimano Di2. (3) Pinarello-sponsored Team Movistar is the only team in the peloton using Campagnolo electronic. As part of this relationship, Pinarello stated that they'll be the first company in the marketplace to offer a Campy electronic bike. When? They didn't say. But they said they'll absolutely be first.

Campagnolo Electric - Movistar colors

Campagnolo Electric - Movistar colors

Campagnolo Electric Battery

Campagnolo Electric


July 24, 2011

Jumping the shark?
- Bruce, St. Antonin Noble Val

July 22, 2011

I see no zip ties they look like rubber bands to me. Also the "ugly shifters" are not the Dogma 2. WTF?
- Jim, TROY NY

July 21, 2011

I am agree with Sticky. Which was the last bike that you expected to be today at the first overall TdF standing?
- Guillermo, Farellones, CL

July 21, 2011

...sorry. I meant 'it is your site,' not sight...
- Herbert, Still in Hooverville

July 21, 2011

Expensive. Made in China (or China's proxy: thanks for leaving the "Made In China" boxes out of your photo reviews, which you did not do when you did that press-release for Ridley). Alas, in the end, this bike is not for me. It isn't a hate thing, I don't thnk, but I like it better when you out-news VeloNews with news (or even opinion.) But... it is your sight, and you do have to sell stuff...
- Herbert, Hooverville

July 21, 2011

"As lofty as this praise may be, I wonder if the Dogma 2 warrants its new name. This isn't to question the benefits of its changes. But it doesn't represent the sort of dramatic platform change often accompanied by a re-naming. Am I over-thinking this? Perhaps the mere act of adding a "2" isn't tantamount to a true re-naming. My head spins with thoughts about branding, marketing, and inventory management. Yet it's all soothed by one key fact: The sweetness of its performance on the road." Translation: "Oh wow! Rich dentists will probably pay like $6k+ for the Dogma2, so I should say it's the absolute best frame ever made (like when I was pushing those overpriced and wooden feeling Cervelo R3s) But on the other hand, we still have a metric shit-load of Dogma frames to unload at $5500. I'd better downplay the improvements so that slightly less rich dentists will buy my old stock..."
- This aint my first rodeo, LRAR

July 21, 2011

Who cares about name changes when the next years models come out in the middle of summer like cars. The 2012 Treks are prolly already in stores now, whats changed? The colors of course! Whatever, nice ad for Pinarello.
- Hung Low, Philly

July 20, 2011

Swapped a dogma for a c59. Never looked back. Vastly superior ride quality. Ernesto knows geometry.
- Sticky, Cali

July 20, 2011

If the Dogma 2 is the first bike available with campy electric, the price is going to be very close to 15000 with a high-end wheel set. Yikes!
- Marc, Ontario

July 20, 2011

and now for those of us who paid $5500 for a KOBH only to have Pinarello drop the retail list to $4500 we now have the...get ready..Dogma2K. Yup..a new KOBH. Thanks Pinarello, You have finally lost me.
- Tom, The Grand Apple

July 20, 2011

Really? Those shifters look like something on my vacuum cleaner, and what about the zip-ties on the stem and the Samsonite under the saddle. The only exquisite asymmetry is the bike and your review.
- Neil, Washington, DC

July 20, 2011

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. If you don't think the Dogma 2 is beautiful.. God help ya'.. I'm in love with it.. Aerodynamics criticism? Look who won today at the tour.. There are Porsche-files and Ferraristi, the haters I venture to say are Porsche people..
- Jim, Troy,N.Y.

July 20, 2011

Adam Lipson= expert. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... He can barely ride himself out of piermont. I love armchair experts who do really ride.
- Reyes, Nyack

July 20, 2011

First time I've ever been let down when I read you're feature.
- Newspaper Publisher, North Carolina

July 20, 2011

I have a 2010 Dogma 60.1 with Campy Super Record 2011 and Lightweight Standard III's. While I haven't ridden every bike on the road, I could not imagine a more beautiful bicycle or a more comfortable bicycle. I know that there is a lot of science that goes into the design of a bicycle and that Pinarello operates on their own set of theories, but the ultimate test is the ride, and it is amazing. I have no doubt that the Dogma 2 is a slight step up. For those of you that haven't tried one of these, I can say with great certainty, "IT IS HEAVEN ON EARTH".
- Adam Lipson, Nyack, NY

July 20, 2011

Agreed. I would have to be paid well to ride anything that ridiculous looking.
- Marcos, Nashville

July 20, 2011

Great looking bike & a lot of people do buy based on aesthetics. But one look at the head tube. & tubing shapes used on this frame destroy your marketing gem of a comment "more aerodynamic" it's possibly only more aero than the original dogma....... Not a big achievement. Possibly belongs in a different category of road bike. Having Waited so long for this post, I was expecting more.
- Dan, Kansas

July 20, 2011

Shame it looks hideous. Made worse in second photo by mass of spacers under the stem.
- John Everyman, Sydney