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Santa Cruz Bicycles Tallboy 2 Carbon Mountain Bike Frame

$1,599.00 $2,899.00

Item # SNZ0366 45% Off

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A legendary platform.

When you have a good thing going, it's rarely advisable to change it. However, Santa Cruz has never been one to follow convention. Instead, it took its venerable Tallboy and redesigned it for today's trail rider. The resulting frame, the Tallboy 2 Carbon Mountain Bike Frame dropped 100 grams off of the original, while also increasing its stiffness. And, in addition to adding stealth dropper post routing and refining the suspension feel, Santa Cruz added a size Small to the Tallboy family. We didn't know if it was possible, but the benchmark just got better.

When revising the Tallboy, Santa Cruz made sure that any improvements were exactly that, an improvement. After all, why mess with a good thing? So, rather than make changes to the geometry on its best-selling model, Santa Cruz instead looked at ways to shave weight and improve stiffness. The resulting frame takes roughly 150 grams off of the previous aluminum version by making some changes to the tubing. But, saving weight isn't everything, which is why Santa Cruz managed to also make the Tallboy 2 stiffer. You'll also find that Santa Cruz incorporated the same collet-style pivot hardware that's become standard for Santa Cruz's suspension bikes. This means that your pivots will stay tight, while also making service a breeze.

Santa Cruz's spirit of improvement is furthered with some of the Tallboy 2's more subtle details. The first improvement that you'll notice in the saddle is the modified suspension rate. Specifically, the progressivity at the end of the stroke has been reduced in comparison to the original Tallboy. In translation, modern shocks are more capable of resisting bottoming-out than they were during the genesis of the Tallboy. So, this revised suspension layout provides full travel with the current generation of suspension dampers. More specifically, it's tuned for the FOX Racing Shox Float CTD shock, which features FOX's CTD adjustment scheme for simplified suspension tuning. And, piggy-backing off of improved suspension action, the overall efficiency receives a boost as well.

The suspension is a refinement of Santa Cruz's dual-link, counter-rotating VPP suspension design. When compressing the suspension from the beginning of the stroke, most of the rotation happens in the stiff aluminum top link, which pulls the wheel closer to the bottom bracket. That keeps the Tallboy soft off of the top, making for a supremely smooth ride. And, once you pass the sag point and get deeper into the travel, the forged aluminum lower link handles most of the rotation. This means that the rear wheel is traveling away from the bottom bracket, so it's better equipped to handle larger, square-edged impacts. VPP is also incredibly effective at neutralizing braking forces, which prevents either stiffening or extending under hard braking. But, the main benefit that you'll notice with this suspension platform is that it isolates pedaling forces in order to keep the bike from bobbing. The lower link has easily accessible grease ports, once again increasing the ease of service.

Perhaps the biggest change is that Santa Cruz is providing the Tallboy 2 in a size Small. Previous iterations of the Tallboy weren't available in sizes smaller than Medium, because the suspension platform provided a limited stand-over. Stand-over is of particular importance to riders, especially on bikes with 29-inch wheels. However, the updated suspension layout lowered the shock mount enough to provide plenty of stand-over for a Small size to be added. Not surprisingly, this provides the same fit that you'd expect from Santa Cruz's other models.

Those with considerable saddle time on the Tallboy platform know that despite its modest 100mm wheel travel, this is a bike that begs to be pushed hard. That's why the geometry was designed to pair the VPP with a 120mm fork. Additionally, the Tallboy 2 receives stealth routing for dropper seatposts. So, you have several options if you're looking for more control on descents and technical sections. For compatibility with tapered forks, the mixed-tapered 44/56mm head tube carries over, as does the 142x12mm thru-axle rear end. Both traits not only boost the stiffness of the frame, but of the bike as a whole. This equates to a precise level of tracking, which is particularly noticeable on rough lines and off-camber sections. The Tallboy 2 is equipped with a direct mount for the front derailleur and a standard mount at the rear. The frame also features a 73mm threaded bottom bracket, 34.9mm seat collar, and two water bottle mounts.

The Santa Cruz Tallboy 2 Carbon Mountain Bike Frame is available in five sizes from Small to XX-Large and in the colors Gloss White/black and Matte Black/white.

Tech Specs

Frame Material:
carbon fiber
Suspension:
full-suspension
Pivot Type:
VPP
Rear Shock:
FOX FLOAT CTD Trail Adjust Kashima
Rear Travel:
100 mm
Recommended Fork Travel:
120 mm
Rear Axle:
12x142 mm thru-axle
Replaceable Rear Derailleur Hanger:
yes
Head Tube Diameter:
ZS44/EC49 mixed tapered
Headset Included:
no
Bottom Bracket Type:
73 mm
Front Derailleur Mount:
high direct mount
Derailleur Pull:
top
Seatpost Diameter:
30.9 mm
Seat Collar:
34.9 mm
Cable Routing:
external
Accessory Cable Stops:
seat dropper
Compatible Components:
Shimano, SRAM
Recommended Use:
cross country racing
Manufacturer Warranty:
5 years on frame
Actual Weight:
Matte Black-White, S: 2,236g

Geometry chart

Santa Cruz Bicycles

Geometry Chart
 
 
Tallboy 2 Carbon
 Seat Tube
(c-t)
Effective Top TubeStackReachStand OverHead Tube LengthHead Tube AngleSeat Tube AngleBottom Bracket HeightChainstayWheelbase
S 16.5in 21.9in 24in 14.2in 28.2in 3.5in 70.2o 72.4o 13in 17.5in 41.7in
M 17.5in 23.1in 24.4in 15.4in 28.5in 3.9in 70.2o 72.4o 13in 17.5in 43in
L 18.5in 24.1in 24.4in 16.4in 29in 3.9in 70.2o 72.4o 13in 17.5in 44in
XL 20in 25.1in 24.8in 17.3in 29.5in 4.3in 70.2o 72.4o 13in 17.5in 45in
XXL 21.5in 26in 25.2in 18.0in 30.2in 4.7in 70.2o 72.4o 13in 17.5in 45.9in

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5 5

Best Of Both Worlds

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

My wife and I are avid trail riders and both compete in Cat 1 XC races. We travel the states just to ride the "best" trails. I have been through roughly 9 bikes in my short 5 year career; hardtail, SS full squish, longer travel, short XC travel, and now this beautiful TallBoy. I just purchased the same frame for my wife. The bike is light, fast, climbs like a goat, and can descend like a 150mm travel bike. This is hands down the best rig I have ridden and with how much I talk about my bike it has convinced my wife to sell her Epic and force me to purchase the TB ;-). Best all around fun race bike that I have ridden. I talk this bike up to every one I ride with. And, no, I am not affiliated with Santa Cruz

If an item goes on sale just after you...

If an item goes on sale just after you purchased it, do you price match?

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Yes we do. If you purchase a product from us, and we reduce the price of that item within 60 days of your purchase you are welcome to contact us and we will issue you a Competitive Cyclist gift card for the difference. This policy only applies if we have the same size and color of the item that you originally purchased in stock.

Please note that our Price Protection policy will not be applicable to promotional discounts. Promotional discounts are not applicable to previous purchases.

5 5

New and improved

  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

The Tallboy is one of the classic 29rs that have been around for a few years and still our best selling mtn bike. Santa Cruz did some slight modifications to the new Tallboy 2 making it even more snappy and responsive. Shaving off 100 grams and making it a bit stiffer really makes this bike climb extremely well. I had the opportunity of demo'n the bike a couple of months ago and I was very impressed. I could definitely tell a difference in the stiffness of the bike which accelerated very quickly. Over all Santa Cruz did a nice job of adding to an already impressive bike. I would highly recommend picking one up :)
*** I would recommend running this XC frame with a 1x11 drivetrain such as XX1 or X01. If you have any questions with sizing or component recommendations feel free to reach out to me at 801-736-6396 x 4074 or e-mail wbranham@competitivecyclist.com. Happy Trails!

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can you tell me the frame weight for large size?
thank you

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