WHAT'S NEW
Silence Kit
- We've made the choice to stop sales of Pegoretti frames here at Competitive Cyclist. Dario's bikes continue to be what they've always been -- beautiful to behold and beautiful to ride. As a human he's no less radiant and humble than he was a decade ago when we first got involved with him and his name had none of the currency it now possesses.
Our decision is rooted in a few things, but the primary reason is the trend we've seen in our Pegoretti frame sales: The proportion of stock to custom has tipped heavily (shall we say completely?) over to custom. That's not a problem in itself, except that it seems we subscribe to an old-fashioned notion of custom where it's a blessed opportunity in life to surrender the need for critical decision-making, and instead you can go in silence and confidence as you hand yourself over to a master. How many times in life do you get to do that? The best custom Pegorettis have always been made of 4 ingredients: Dario's vast experience, his tape measure, the 3 questions he'll ask you, and your silence.
Custom seems to mean something different now, where personal urges get veto power over the very thing you're paying for: The know-how of the gifted builder. It's a recipe for unhappiness for everyone involved. You don't give instruction to the master tailor, the pilot, or the Michelin-starred chef. From whence does the license come to do so with the framemaker?
If you'd like a custom frame and you feel the need to be actively involved, there are companies built to accommodate that and we all know who they are and they'll provide you lovely conversation and empathy. But if you have your eye on a Peg, then do one of two things:
(1) Buy a stock size frame. There's a reason why stock geometry exists -- it works for almost everyone. In terms of buying, waiting for delivery, riding, and owning -- the best Pegorettis are stock Pegorettis.
(2) If you must go custom, first take a vow of silence, then track down Dario in person (at Interbike, at the NAHBS, in Trento -- he's accessible) and let him do his thing. Don't expect a religious experience. Start to finish it'll take <2 minutes. When Dario is done measuring he'll hand you a piece of paper with his notes to himself and you can take it to your dealer and they can fax the paper in. They even get to be silent. That sort of focused interaction has a purity to it that's missing from the retail Pegoretti experience as it's most often had, where the customer expresses curiosity & predispositions about Pegoretti to the bike shop; the bike shop (eager to make the sale) validates those predispositions then transmits them to Gita; Gita translates these wishes and in what we're told is timely communication passes them along to Dario. It's a long and arduous chain of communication for a product whose success, ironically, all too often isn't measured by its actual ride. The more customized the frame order is, the greater the extent to which success gets measured by whether the geometry is accurate down to the last mm, and whether the paint is correct down to the exact hue. It becomes a kitchen remodel, not a bike order.
We've had too many customers who place significant emotional weight onto their custom Pegoretti order and expect it, after 2+ years of waiting, to be life-changing. If their predispositions or a single personalized detail gets lost in the course of commerce it leads to Kiekegaardian existential terror. These feelings of anger and disappointment aren't unjustified, per se, but the very act of business is about the balance between risk and reward and the amount of money to be made selling Pegoretti is now outweighed by the costly risk of this customer disappointment, with the main cost to Competitive Cyclist being the time it takes to clean up the situation. This is why stock framesets are so great: People focus purely on the ride. The same holds true with getting that piece of paper from Dario for a custom, where what you're paying for is his vision and his execution. You're paying $4k so you don't have to deal with details.
The final factor in our decision is the recently announced pricing scheme of Pegoretti where, due to the sizeable lead times for delivery and EUR/USD volatility, there is no longer a set price but instead a day-to-day spot price based on factors to which we have no visibility here.
We'd never discourage anyone from buying a Pegoretti. In fact, if you're interested you should contact Chad at the best bike shop in California, Above Category. Or if you're on the east coast, holler at Craig at International Bike in Boston to place your order. Both of them have big experience with Pegoretti, and they will take fantastic care of you. And as far as Competitive Cyclist goes, we bid adieu with huge respect and love for the man and the brand, as symbolized by this long-shuttered section of the site we built many years back when Dario first became ill.
A couple of pieces of related housekeeping: (1) If you currently have an open order for a Pegoretti with us, your order is still queued up and our decision will have no impact on your frame. We'll still take delivery on your bike and take care of you. (2) We have a stock 54cm Marcelo in "Baci" and a stock 58cm Love #3 in "Manovella". We're eager to find a happy home for these final 2 available frames in our inventory and towards that end will be flexible on price.
And one final note: For those who might think our recent addition of Bianchi is related in any way to our move with Pegoretti, that isn't the case. Other than a shared country for their company HQ's (and that both have a storied history with Marco Pantani), the connection is nil. It's mere coincidence that one went up on our site when the other left. Truth be told, we've been agonizing about our position on Pegoretti for awhile now.
- Blog entry of the year so far in 2010 is over at Bicycle Specialties, and it'll take a lot to beat it. Check out David Millar's winterized training bike. And the Arenberg Forest Youtube link at the bottom of the entry is glorious.
- Lost in the media frenzy about Joao Correia diving in the deep end with the Cervélo Test Team is the fact that the last person worth a flip at Bicycling is now gone. The Spooky blog hits the nail on the head, and I don't see how it's gonna do anything but get far worse there.
- Some respect for our elders:
- In case you've been keeping notes on doping trends, the last 3 significant American doping cases have all involved DHEA. This article over at Pez nicely puts to bed the notion (and the most-often used defense) that these positives all came from contaminated Flintstone chewables.
- A good number of our customers raced at Master's Nationals last year. Did you see that USA Cycling pushed the date out by over a month? Instead of late June it's now early August.
- Over the years I've been hit by cars, by deer, by fellow riders, and by a catapulted 2-liter bottle of Coke. As a result my survival instinct is well-honed. Which is why the emerging trend of rumble strips on rural highways is worrisome. It makes riding 2-abreast questionable, and even single-file riding is dodgy since, in an effort to avoid the strip, your only option is to veer towards traffic. Since 2008 the State of Arkansas has installed 1,200 miles of rumble strips, and on these roads automotive crashes have dropped by 41%, so I think we'll see plenty more soon. It's a shame that something that does such unquestionable good makes riding more treacherous (or at least more intimidating.) But in my brain & my heart I know it's for the best. I guess it's time to discover some new routes…
February 24, 2010
I recently recieved my Pegoretti Ciavete form you after a 21+ month wait. I have a Colnago C-50, and a Pegoretti 2008 Duende. I ordered a stock 52cm frame set on both Pegoretti's. With a little stem and saddle adjustments they are wonderful rides. Especially the Responsorium. It is the bike of dreams. I find your decision to not sell the Pegorreti any longer for the reasons you stated quite valid. Custom fit and paint is much over thought. The ride is what matters. Pegoretti is perhaps on of the best steel frame builders alive. Have a little faith.
- Bill, Sarasota,Fl
January 31, 2010
You should give a shout out to Cycles BiKyle in PA as a source for Pegoretti. Great shop.Bud
- Bud, Elkns Park PA
January 26, 2010
Stock sizes these days are a joke. S, M, L, XL is BS. I long for the days gone by where "stock" frames were normally available from 50-62 cm in 1 cm increments. These days I've got to ride a between size because of this crap. MTB frame sizing is responsible for this debacle.
- REG, SF CA
January 18, 2010
Sorry to see them go entirely, as opposed to ceasing to take custom orders.
- Al, Boink
January 17, 2010
I've been complaining about the rumble strips in Tennessee for a while. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the danger in them. The ones here are CRAZY. They're actually ON the white line, not on the shoulder, and they're the roughest (deepest) rumble strips I've ever seen! (Almost lost control of my bike once because of 'em!) So the choice I have is to either ride in the road, or to ride....in the road (while getting constantly honked at!) Can't figure out why they won't put up a few "Share the Road" signs either. It's crazy.
- Scott, Sparta, TN
January 16, 2010
i don't understand those pavement references, can you Type Slowly? ;)
- richard_mutt, nyc
January 14, 2010
I had a ride over the weekend where i found a new rumble strip just installed up here outside of Philadelphia. It presented me with a bad choice: ride in the traffic late where the pavement is clear and smooth or ride deep in the shoulder where the pavement has holes and cracks and there's lots debris. Timely comment!
- Eric , wayne pa
January 14, 2010
Just pretend the rumble strips are pave in the crooked rain.
- S. Malkmus, Stockton, CA
January 13, 2010
So if dealing with the customers who want custom is the biggest challenge in selling Peg's (you dedicated 6 paragraphs to it).....why not sell stock sizes?
Oh never mind...I see the one paragraph that mentions what appear to be the root causes behind the decision...long lead times and price volatility. Well written...just seems to be a disproportionate explanation.
- Sean, Rogers, AR
January 13, 2010
Re this week's title -- do I detect a Pavement reference?
- Nate, Berkeley
January 13, 2010
Look at the saddle/stem differential on Mike Barry and David Millar's bikes - even their off-season bikes are totally slammed: maybe the 6cm-of-spacers-bars-at-the-same-height-as-the-saddle-extended-headtube babies can shut up about 'my back hurts'; 'it's more comfortable this way' and just loose some weight and ride more....babies....
- Roadent, Toronto
January 13, 2010
Pedant's corner - Whence means 'from where', no need for the other 'from'. Sorry, I just can't help myself. Hours of deliberation went into deciding whether to correct a blog I enjoy so much. It's just.... good writing tarnished. Oh. I'm over it now.
- David, Kettering, GB
January 12, 2010
Here in Wyoming, we're plagued by rumble strips. One thing I've always wondered - the strips seem to hasten pavement breakdown, leading to the need for more frequent re-paving. Since every DOT cries poor (particularly when asked for cycling-related funding) wouldn't eliminating the strips make sense?
- Carson, Jackson Hole, Wyo.
January 12, 2010
i wonder when cc will be offering its own custom frames a la made by waterford and painted for competitive cyclist.
- sam, little rock
January 12, 2010
By dropping Pegoretti, CC now has exactly zero steel frames in their road lineup. How sad.
- PawleeWalnutz, NYC
January 12, 2010
Rumble strip? Up here the fog line - what the white line is called - marks where the road ends. Go over it and you're in the grass or worse. How about the six-foot drop-off marked with a "low shoulder" sign on my favorite ride? Shoulders are for freeways and bicycles are not permitted.
Where does your state get the money for the rumble strips anyway? Can you send some of it up this way just to fix the road surface? My rides are as rough as your rumble strips.
- Joe, Ann Arbor, MI
January 12, 2010
I've Been a fan of this site since my first purchase. I must say your break-ups (Merckx-Pegoretti-Colnago etc.) and for that matter your hook-ups (Bianchi-Wilier etc) are always worthy reading.
- Luke, Chicago
January 12, 2010
Anybody in Auckland, NZ, go down to Queen street and take a picture of the median next to the movie theatre and send to Competitive Cyclist so they can see it. It's a great design, and it kinda cracks me up since the driver obviously kept his speed up while applying the paint. The round dots look more like little "froglets...", than round blobs... A long stream of ode to life running along main street...
- AM, Dubai, UAE
January 11, 2010
Guys, you need to start lobbying the state to re-think the rumble strip design. My job is to travel the world, so I've seen my fair share. The best solution is a solid white line created by applying small goblets of white paint, instead of a solid line. From an angle it appears to be solid, but have three advantages: 1. Saves on paint. 2. Increases the reflective surface of the line for added visibility. 3. Makes your car rumble if you cross the line. I've seen them in many places, but predominately in Australia and New Zealand, both on median markers, and shoulder strips.
- AM, Dubai, UAE
January 11, 2010
Spell check :) Kierkegaardian
- Kevin, San Diego

