Giordana shorts are my favorite, but I did not like the chamois in these tights, which, not only seemed too thick, but it didn't extend forward enough. odd. I was afraid that I notice excessive pressure on front of my pelvis. Also, the waistband is not wide, and there's an internal elastic. When I took off the tight, the elastic had already twisted inside. the material is of very good quality, and felt thick and warm. the other feature I liked was the ankle zippers.