These Garneau shorts might be the best looking of all the Garneau bibs. My problem with the Elite short is they are NOT as long as other Garneau shorts that have an inseam of 11.25 in. I have tried multiple pairs of these shorts and found each one to have, at best a 9.5 in inseam. Not the 11.25 inseam as Garneau advertises. I love the look of the short, just not the length.