I have written about the matching knee guards, and those were not impressive. These things are really no good, at least for me. I have worn them on a couple of rides, and thought they would give me some protection in the rocks and cactus here, but without the bulk of my full Raceface armor. They are fairly comfortable, but sadly, on all the rocky and bumpy downhill sections I rode, they would slip down my arm within minutes with any sweat. I tried tightening them up so much they were uncomfortable, and even then they would still slip, leaving the elbows unprotected. These are maybe a good buy if your riding is gentle, but anything even a little bit technical, and these are just a waste of money. I just wonder if I can get my money back if they are used?