I bought a pair of these for a couple of reasons: First, I wanted a pair of white bibs (it gets REAL hot here in the Lou); and second, I wanted to try what appears to be a "house brand". First ride was a 50 miler on the Katy trail, and I have to say I was very pleased. Riding comfort is excellent. Size is true, so at least for me, no Euro upsize. The only change I would make is in the chamois. The design creates a pronounced camel toe effect that can be a little disconcerting. For me a greater issue is the short front to the chamois. Adding a little more height would make the shorts a little less, shall we say revealing. Beyond that, they are very good, and the sale price in my opinion made for a great value.