I bought these shorts earlier in the year because they were on sale. They are very warm, way too warm for summertime riding and I kind of forgot about them until now. As the temps have dropped though I went back through the closet and found these. The fleece lining is very nice, and I managed a 37F ride today with a pair of leg warmers on. Also the pad is very comfortable to sit on, possibly the most comfortable of any of the shorts I own. Nice to have the bits I care about so very well taken care of.