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4 5

Wish Zoic made a chamois-free version of these shorts, as the outside shorts are good, but the liner not so much. I would remove the liner and just wear a higher quality Pearl Izumi or other chamois. Higher rise in the front than other shorts. I like the long inseam. I'm a size 4 in pants/shorts, and wear a Small in these Zoic shorts.

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5 5

These shorts are awesome! Super lightweight, no random zippered pockets or unneeded features. Plenty of room for my favorite cham underneath. I love the 13 inch long inseam- perfect coverage for all-mountain, downhill, and cross country riding. Comfortable low rise in the front, too. I'm 5'7", and a size 4 pants/shorts, and a size 26 in these Dakine shorts. (Size 24 fit great, but too tight when actually riding a bike).

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5 5

I truly love these shoes- I have a 2012 pair, put about 2000 miles on them, and will probably need replacement in 2014. I haven't had any problems with the sole coming off like the other reviewer- the shoes are just getting too soft after a couple years. I have an average size 8 foot, and they fit true to size. The sticky climbing-shoe type rubber sole glues you to the pedal like you're wearing clipless (assuming you have flat pedals with pins for traction). And, the high inside padding of the shoe has protected my ankle many times. They are so comfortable, too. Highly recommend if you are using flat pedals.

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4 5

I have the Butterfly Carbon on my mountain bike, and it's a dream. I thought I'd try the lower priced CroMoly version for my road bike, but it's too soft. It feels like heaven for the first few minutes, but not supportive enough for long rides. This would be a great saddle for non-road bikes. The wide width of the rear is awesome, but the nose is too wide for me for road riding.

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4 5

I was looking for a saddle bag that didn't attach to the seat post, to avoid the velcro attachment that rips up lycra bike shorts. I thought SciCon only made bags that attach to the saddle rails directly, but this bag attaches to the saddle rails AND has the typical velcro attachment to the seat post. This is the only SciCon bag I've seen that has this feature. So, although I was excited about the large size of this bag, I returned it and replaced it with another smaller SciCon that only attaches to the saddle rails. This would be a great bag for a touring bike or cruiser bike where you're not wearing lycra bike shorts, though.

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4 5

Love the wide rear to support sitting bones. However, the mid- nose was too wide for me and resulted in pain/pressure. Also, this is not a flat saddle- it has a raised rear. Look for side photos on other websites to get a real idea of the profile. Not the saddle for me, but I hear other women do like it.

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4 5

The narrow nose of this saddle is great- no chafing. However, the rear is not as wide as you'd think with the measurement provided by Terry..... it is not a flat top seat- it is dome shaped, so it rides like a narrower seat. The Butterfly is a flat, wide rear saddle, for instance. So, if you're looking for a narrower version of the Butterfly, this would be a good saddle. I rode this Liberator saddle for a year, certainly gave it a fair try, and it felt comfortable while riding, but afterwards my butt and hips were in a lot of pain. Not for me.

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3 5

Nice long length, love the lack of belt loops, but too baggy for cross country riding for me. I'm a size 4 pants, and size Small in these shorts. Waist is fine, but legs are too generously sized. Would work for lift accessed resort style downhill riding. Knee pads would probably fit.

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3 5

Very lightweight, 'slippery' material. Makes a lot of noise! Nice length, though. And, I like the lack of belt loops. I'm a size 4 pants, and the Small in these shorts were a touch too tight, and the Medium was too baggy for my liking.

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4 5

Fit true to size, flattering cut, forgiving material, and long length. Not too baggy like DH shorts. Even the chamois is comfy, although it is not detachable, so I just clipped the connectors with scissors. The chamois is also low rise, which I find super comfy. I also love the flat front of the outer shorts and lack of belt loops. There are no venting slits or zippers if you overheat easily.

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4 5

I try to have a whey protein drink within 30 minutes of finishing a ride. It really seems to help with muscle recovery so I'm ready to go again the next day! You can mix it with water, milk, or soy milk, etc. and it is always tasty. Definitely pricey for the amount you get, though. Note: the product is in a round, plastic container- not the 'bags' pictured here.

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4 5

Super lightweight material, which is great when it is warm. Not sure how durable they are (like if you hit a branch). Love that they are just a shell and I can wear whatever cham I prefer. Definitely not low-rise: they are waist-high. I am a size 4 pants, and the small fit perfect. Not what I was looking for, though, so I returned them.

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