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4 5

I like the chamois on these a lot (not too thick) and the straps work well with my body. You can fish them out of your armholes to take the bibs down for a pee if you want to. These stay in place well and don't shift around.

The only things I don't like are these:
- the chamois isn't very nice if I decide to take a break and ride sitting more upright for a little while
- there is one piece of stitching that is scratchy on one side. Either it has gone away after 4 or 5 washes, or I have developed a callus on my butt where it was hitting me.
- I do have to pull them up maybe once after about 40 miles, but after that I don't have to worry about them.

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2 5

I'm short-waisted and on the curvy side through the hips and butt; these aren't for me. The Sugoi bibs fit me well in a medium, so maybe that gives you some idea.

(I had to pick a star rating to write this review. Frankly, I don't know what to pick because I didn't use them. They are probably great for someone else!)

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