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Just got these shorts in the mail. They look like great shorts. Almost everything I was hoping for except for one little thing: it's not a removable liner! You'd have to permanently cut the sewn loops just to get the chamois out! I have no idea how they can advertise this as a removable liner. By that logic, I could cut the liner out of some swim trunks and call them shorts.
Otherwise, the sizing is accurate, the quality seems good and the materials are nice. A little long for my taste. I'm 6'0" and they run over my knees, rubbing whenever I bend my legs. That makes them a less than ideal biking, hiking or lifestyle short, but that's a bit of personal preference.

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