Five years ago I bought a pair of really tough Oakley bike shorts that were heavy duty with lots of pocket space. Oakley stopped making these and I looked for months for a replacement pair equal to the Oakleys. These Fox shorts are very close. Lots of pocket space, tough material and good fit. The only quibble is the exterior waist adjusting velcro straps which cause the waist to "bunch" against your skin when you cinch them up a bit. But other than that, they are great.