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I found them to be quality protection, but have two issues:
They rub my knee cap while pedaling to the point my skin is raw after 1 1/2 hour ride.
On one of the pads the stitching is coming undone at the bottom of the VPD pad.
I really wanted to like them, and got a great deal, but I may go back to the Kyle Straits.
Is it made in China or Germany?
Black Chili or ASC compound?
conflicting info on both; please clarifiy. THX