I've been really pleased with the Ion shorts. They have the pockets that the Fox and Giro shorts I own always leave me wanting to throw my keys and phone in on the way to the ride. While I haven't ridden with anything in the pockets (load up the hydro pack), the rear waist pocket is the most out of the way, the thigh pockets lay flat and could hold a gel or bar without issue, but that'd be it in my opinion. Fit on these shorts is great, the size is my true waist fit, and they feature adjusters, so if you're on the line, you can size up and cinch them down. Other overshorts I have hang low in the crotch and will snag on the back of my seat when I'm behind the saddle on steep descents, not an issue with the Ions. The included liner chamois is ok. It'd be fine for 1-2 hour rides, but I'll be using other bibs under the Ions for longer efforts. The Ions are a great, lightweight, overshort and for the price, I'd consider the included liner a bonus.