Overall, a nice set of wheels. Much more comfortable than others in the class (eurus,fulcrum,ksyrium). Absolutely sold on the wide rim trend, it just makes sense. Light, stiff, nice hubs. Great for fast training and fast group rides, I still use deep carbon wheels for racing, but in reality these ardennes hoops don't really give up much to deep carbon wheels as far as aero benefits and certainly not weight. Plus the ease of alloy clinchers!