I've used these pads for 2 DH seasons now and had several crashes on them. The pros of these pads is that they're comfortable and offer good protection when they stay in place. Unfortunately for me, they only stayed in place 50% of the time on larger crashes. I believe the issue is in the retention system that simply doesn't tighten as much as other systems on the market. The picture is what my elbow looked like after a hard crash while wearing these pads.