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5 5

Used both on Mt. and Road bike. Used pedro and white lighting and this stuff is similar to the white lighting. Does not gunk up like pedro's. Like they say it cleans and lubricates. Pretty soupy so have a rag under while applying. Have not used in a muddy environment yet. Good for the price!

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5 5

Two rides so far and great shorts for the price. Followed another review and cut the liners off the shorts (two tabs on the sides) making it easier to put on.

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