First off I agree that paying attention to the size chart is necessary. I ordered a size small (5'7" with beefy thighs) and they fit well. I've tried many other shorts from Fox, Royal, Endura, and Troy Lee but these are by far the best fitting. They are not "Bro" fit and are more xc oriented which I prefer. Even on the steepest climbs the waist band does not feel like it is digging into your stomach. When out of the saddle they don't feel like they're around your hips. I've been wearing them over bibshorts without any issues. They vent well and don't feel hot (summer temps here reach over 100F). Durability is good as there are no signs of saddle marks yet after a couple months of riding in them. Would highly recommend these shorts.