I've used these x3 since I've gotten them. They fit true to size, not loose as the tech specs state. Great material with good breathability. It has plenty of vents and pockets. Only drawback that I can find is the chamois. A little short on the thighs, but breaths great and doesn't get annoying after a long ride. Has plenty of padding that extends into the inner thighs not just the crotch area. Definitely worth the discounted price.