I rode a pair of these exclusively for the past four months on pinned pedals. The shoes started off very stiff, almost like a clipless shoe, but softened nicely over time, in the end they were about as stiff as a new pair of Impacts; Impacts get softer too, so these are firmer than Impacts by 25% or so. The only downside to these shoes is that the Vibram sole wore very badly at the pins. I ride Nuke Proof Electrons which have socket head screws for pins, they are sharp, but not any more than a typical pinned pedal. I literally wore craters into the soles at the inside and outside pins, this was riding 3-4 x week for only three months! When I say craters, I mean like rubber nibs gone, holes carved into the flat midsole 1/4-3/8" deep. My LBS is contacting Shimano about a replacement pair, so maybe I'll get a round two with these shoes. Other than the sole wear, they are my favs hands down, putting the Impacts to shame in all areas, better sole stiffness, better sole contact, sticky when they need to be, ankle and toe protection, lace cover, nice fit (I'm a 13, I took 48).