Well? I finally received them and I couldn't wait to try them on... I have pretty thick muscular legs, so I opted for the XL, I may have gotten away with a Large as they seem roomier than that ALP-X 2.0 pants. but the fit is extremely comfortable and they are not falling off me... I figured if they feel a bit loose, I can get them taken in. The feel is soft extremely comfy and really can't beat 2 in one with the zip-offs... it is a rainy day today and was able to test them right away... they are NOT waterproof but extremely water resistant. I personally really like the attention to detail on the velcro and even velcro on the button... I had returned a pair of Enduras because the button wouldn't stay clipped.
Overall I am already a fan of Gore Bike Wear and I know that I'll have these pants for many years to come... Bring it on Winter!!!!
I would like to thank Clay D. who what the chat rep who helped me get this in time for the weekend. His service and patience was SUPERB!!! needless to say reps like him is what makes real cyclist the place for me to shop online for my bike needs.