Nice shorts, nice liner, but the shorts ran about a size larger that my usual size. I'm 6'0", about 170-175 lbs. (depending on amount of, or lack of, riding) and ordered a Large but would need a Medium for the shell. The liner felt great, better than most combination MTB shorts, but not sure how well the liner would fit if I ordered the Medium shorts. I think I'll just stick with wearing my beat up road shorts and buy MTB shorts that fit (yeah, part time roadie but don't hold that against me!).