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5 5

Coming from the burlier TLD T-bone knee/shin guard, which after five years of abuse are worn out, I find these to be the perfect blend of toughness, light weight and good coverage. Unlike the T-bone guard which would slide down until I started sweating, these stay put on my legs from the start of the ride and really stay put as I start to sweat. I have only crashed once in these so far, a relatively low-speed low-side on soft dirt, and they stayed in place and showed no signs of damage. They take machine-washing well, unlike the T-bones which degraded over the years with each washing. They seem a little warm at the start of the ride, but after a minute or two, you don't even notice them. I have ridden close to 100 miles in these and there are no issues with rubbing, hot-spots or ill-fit. They are sized quite large, so go down one size - I am 5' 10" and 165 # and I usually wear a size Large, but these were too large for me in that size, and even for my son-in-law who is 6' 2" and 195 #, so I am using Mediums and they fir well - not too tight . Highly recommend these if you ride in rocky terrain and want unobtrusive protection with good coverage during the ride.

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5 5

This saddle is extremely light (160 gm), but seems tough as far as stiffness of the rails and seat pan. While the padding is thin, I haven't had any issues with discomfort. I do wear knickers with a chamois and average about 30 miles of all-mountains riding every week, so maybe my 'taint is just calloused! Haven't crashed it yet, so I can't vouch for the durability of the seat cover material. Slight creaking from the front of the saddle when riding the nose on climbs was cured with some teflon spray - no other issues noted in close to 100 miles of riding so far. This saddle is high-quality and a great deal.

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