Purchased these as a gift, he'd been wearing some cotton/poly cargo-esque shorts from a few years ago, those quickly went to the weekend grubby clothes pile. The new shorts have been fully adopted into the biking rotation. 15 miles on the trail, pull out the chamois, couple of hours in the car, wash the bikes, a bit of grilling, cervezas, and he's still wearing the shorts. He wears a 31/32, and the 32 is perfect, he's also pretty slim. I am impressed by the fabric and construction, ultralight weight with smooth seams. The chamois looks all time, good coverage, good length and thickness around the bottom band will keep the shorts from moving. The shorts are to be lived in. The mesh insert only increases the breath-ability of these highly breathable shorts. There's great stretch for peddling, good length to keep that white thigh hidden and the fabric seems fairly abrasion resistant. Get two pairs.