POC use to rule the high end protection gear; now other companies have caught up. I would only buy POC b/c of the superior material, etc but now they are just overpriced for what you get. Remember everyone, this gear is suppose to be disposable after couple of hard years of use and even then the material I suspect will degrade over time and will need to be tossed. These pads after 3 yrs are still flexible but as others mentioned they just don't stay up on my elbow; constantly pulling them up. They have a velcro strap at the top you cinch down but then its either too tight and arms hurt or too lose and fall down. I have taken a bif and they hold up well and did their job.