I received these yesterday from my LBS and the material is pretty nice. I wore them this morning; dry, 30 degrees, 20ish mph winds. performed nicely. The one thing I haven't figured out yet is their fit. they're loose in the crotch so keeping the cham to hold the soldiers in place was troublesome. The overall height of the bibs seemed good. I'm going to try and hike them up higher to start next time so the men don't get a chance to move around from the start. The material is good enough that I don't mind if I have to wear some shorts underneath to make them work. For size reference, I'm 6'0'' 225, built like a linebacker, and the XL fits nicely, except for what's described above. I'll try to update once I have some more miles into them, hopefully I can get them washed and dried before tomorrow and try to get a 30 mile ride.