I'm giving these three stars, because they're very well made. Having said that, the sizing for these things is awful. At least for me. I'm 5'5", 125, so I ordered them in a Small. When they arrived and I put them on, I was pretty disappointed. The hemline is just a little bit above my ankle. For a knicker, I'd expect these to go no lower than upper-to-mid-calf, but these things are way too long for me. By comparison, the Cutter Tech Knickers in Small are the perfect length for me. Maybe these are just designed for tall, skinny people. Again, they're really well made. I have the LG Durango MTB shorts (picked up from Chainlove), and these are very similar. Same material, same chamois, same fly and everything. I was really hoping for the utility of the pockets that came with these, plus they look really nice. They're just too long. I have to send them back.