First you should know I was never a diehard Dogma fan. The 65.1 had great geometry but not the smoothest nor lightest. I don't dislike the older Dogma but never felt the need to own one. The F8 is on a whole new level of smooth and the power transfer is unprecedented. The fork is not only a joy to look at but is equally a joy to ride. Some things in life are so good it is impossible to take them for granted and the F8 is one of those things. Even while riding it in heavy rain at an unsafe hour without lights all I could think of is how wonderful the F8 is to ride. My first impression was beg, barrow, or steal, I need to get one of these.