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Pinarello Dogma Hydro 65.1 Think 2 Road Bike Frame - 2015

$5,300.00

Item # PIN0141

4 5

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Perfection, perfected.

Pinarello is a true Italian company, and in the spirit of a country obsessed with style, the engineers at Pinarello are possessed to relentlessly pursue perfection -- even if the product has already reached a pinnacle in the eyes of onlookers. Such is the case with the Dogma. Working with professional cycling teams around the world to rewrite what had already been ground-breaking asymmetric conventions, they developed the Dogma 65.1 Think 2. Now Pinarello has taken it one step further, if that is even possible, with the Pinarello Dogma Hydro 65.1 Think 2 Road Bike Frame.

In its quest to create the next Dogma successor, the Italian engineers reached out to their Japanese carbon fiber suppliers at Torayca and flatly challenged the composite giant to improve upon its flagship 60HM1K cloth. The end result? The Dogma 65.1 Think 2, hewn from Torayca's all-new 65-ton 65HM1K Nano-alloy Carbon Fiber -- a carbon that's more rigid and reactive than anything that Pinarello has ever used on a bike frame. A full 65-tons per square centimeter, to be exact. The increased rigidity allows Pinarello to use less carbon fiber in key areas, thereby lowering the weight of the Dogma and dispelling myths that the Dogma is not a bike for climbers. When you think of the 65.1 Think 2, you may think of Britain's Team Sky, perhaps because this bike has been ridden by a Sky rider to Yellow in France for two consecutive years.

Even with new carbon, the Dogma 65.1 Think 2 follows in the same mold and distinct identity of the Dogma 2, which, of course, retained much of the asymmetrical shaping of its predecessor. And while the bloodlines of the Dogma are very much intact, Pinarello continues to push the envelope to further enhance the frame's formula. Once again, it has succeeded in the creation of a bike that is stiffer, lighter, and even more responsive than its predecessor. Furthermore, carefully engineered internal cable routing on the new Dogma 65.1 allows for you to easily choose between either mechanical or electronic shifting systems, without any penalty to the bike's aesthetic or its aerodynamic profile. Gone are the days of separate Dogma frames for each system. Instead, the 65.1 features interchangeable cable stops at the frame openings that are capable of being intuitively swapped out should you prefer SRAM Red for one season, then Campagnolo Super Record EPS the next.

During the two years in which the original Dogma sat atop the Pinarello family of frames, Pinarello studied and restudied the forces in action as a rider sprints on the pedals, pulls on the handlebars, and muscles the bike through corners. FEA (finite element analysis) confirmed that the Dogma's asymmetrical design was beneficial in leveling the variances in frame deflection from one side to the other. However, Pinarello knew that it could take the asymmetry to new levels with the Dogma 2 -- continued in the Dogma 65.1. One big change is in the top tube, which has been moved slightly off-center towards the right side of the bike in order to further this effort towards equilibrium.

In addition to this, Pinarello addressed another area for potential improvement -- the aerodynamics and stiffness of the front end of the bike. This Dogma is fitted with a 1.5-inch lower headset bearing, which allows a larger diameter steerer tube at the fork crown. The resulting benefit for you is a 19% boost in front end stiffness, which translates to predictable braking and a more precise steering feel. Another part of the fork redesign includes smoother, more aerodynamic fork legs, and a sculpted crown that integrates seamlessly into the reshaped down tube. With this much attention to the asymmetrical design aspects of the Dogma, it's easy to overlook it from a distance. Only when you're close enough to touch it will you really be able to discern the subtle differences. The left and right sides of the bike bear different tube shapes as well as general tube sizes. You're able to see these differences in the top tube, the fork legs, and both seatstays and chainstays.

As with the 60HM1K carbon fiber, Torayca is again using its Nano-alloy technology on the 65HM1K. Alloy nano-particles are embedded into the carbon itself. Upon significant impact, these particles 'explode.' In other words, they absorb the kinetic energy of impact forces so that the carbon itself won't have to. The other advancement of note on this Dogma is the actual manufacturing process employed in its construction. Pinarello starts with a polystyrene form as a base for the initial layup of material -- a method which is significantly more precise, as each layer is placed exactly where it is designed to be according to the FEA testing. In this regard, it's a more reliable and consistent method than molding with an internal bladder. The use of polystyrene also results in even compaction of the laminate, with less wrinkling of the carbon material or trapped gas or resin that causes structural weak spots over time. The form is removed with a recoverable solvent. A cross-section of this Dogma frame will reveal a surprisingly smooth finish that nearly matches the outside.

The frosting on the cake is that this version of the Dogma is disc-brake compatible. It features Pinarello's Onda HD fork which has been exclusively designed to handle the unique stresses of a disc-brake system.

The Pinarello Dogma 65.1 Think 2 is available in 13 sizes from 42 to 62cm and in the colors Black/red gloss. The frame comes standard with disc ready Onda HD asymmetrical carbon fiber fork, a Pinarello integrated 1-1/8 to 1.5in press-in headset, and a Dogma 2 carbon fiber seatpost. It requires an Italian bottom bracket and a braze-on front derailleur.

Tech Specs

Frame Material:
65HM1K carbon fiber
Fork:
Onda HD
Fork Material:
65HM1K
Steer Tube Type:
carbon fiber
Rear Axle:
135 mm
Dropout Type:
semi-vertical
Replaceable Rear Derailleur Hanger:
yes
Head Tube Diameter:
1 1/2 to 1 1/8in tapered
Headset Included:
no, integrated
Bottom Bracket Type:
Italian
Front Derailleur Mount:
braze-on
Cable Routing:
internal
Compatible Components:
disc brake, electronic, mechanical
Recommended Use:
road cycling
Manufacturer Warranty:
3 years
Actual Weight:
Black/Red Gloss, 59.5cm: 2,160g

Geometry chart

Pinarello

Geometry Chart

 

Dogma Hydro 65.1 Think 2
 

Seat Tube

(c-t)

Effective Top Tube

(eTT)

Stack

(S)

Reach

(R)

Head Tube

(HT)

Head Tube Angle

(HTo)

Seat Tube Angle

(STo)

Bottom Bracket Drop

(BBD)

Chainstay

(CS)

42cm  43.5cm 49.8cm 49.3cm 35.1cm 10.5cm 69.15o 74.4o 6.7cm 40.6cm
44cm  45.5cm 50.3cm 50.1cm 35.7cm 11cm 70o 74.4o 6.7cm 40.6cm
46.5cm  48cm 51.5cm 51.2cm 36.7cm 11.5cm 70.5o 74.4o 7.2cm 40.6cm
50cm  51.5cm 52.5cm 52cm 37.4cm 12cm 71.4o 74o 7.2cm 40.6cm
51.5cm  53cm 53.5cm 52.7cm 38cm 12.5cm 72o 73.7o 7.2cm 40.6cm
53cm  54.5cm 54.5cm 54.2cm 38.6cm 13.9cm 72.5o 73.7o 7.2cm 40.6cm
54cm  55.5cm 55cm 55cm 38.6cm 14.7cm 72.8o 73.4o 7.2cm 40.6cm
55cm  56.5cm 55.7cm 56.1cm 38.9cm 15.8cm 72.8o 73.4o 7.2cm 40.8cm
56cm  57.5cm 56.5cm 56.9cm 39.1cm 16.5cm 73.2o 73o 7.2cm 40.8cm
57.5cm  59cm 57.5cm 58.4cm 39.7cm 17.9cm 73.7o 73o 7.2cm 40.8cm
59.5cm  61cm 58.7cm 61.2cm 39.4cm 21.5cm 73.4o 72.4o 6.7cm 40.8cm
62cm  63.5cm 62cm 65.1cm 41cm 25.5cm 73.4o 72o 6.7cm 41.1cm

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4 5

A smooth talking Italian

  • Gender: Male
  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

When this bike came through our demo fleet, I jumped at the chance to throw a leg over this beauty. I had yet taken the opportunity to put some decent miles on a Dogma and the novelty of disc brakes and a Di2 drivetrain made this demo special

The bike came with me to Bend, OR where I was supporting my amature women's team. I make sure to get out and ride, even though I'm not racing at the events I run support.

My first ride was short. Just an out and back for 2 hours. The first thing I noticed about the bike was its smoothness. The road I chose was covered in fresh chip seal and I could feel very little of the pesky tared over rocks. The ride is damp, almost too damp for my tastes however. The Dogma doesn't feel sluggish, but it didn't feel snappy to me either.

My second ride of the weekend was the real test however. I planned a big climb and decent to Mt. Bachelor and Devil's Lake. Again, the bike's smoothness and damp nature made for a comfy ride but I felt the bike's heft uphill.

Going down to the lake however, I could bomb the downhill. The Dogma is solid, very stable. And those disc brakes! They stop like a Formula 1 car.

The bike I rode had a handle bar that was too narrow for me and a Fizik saddle that felt like I was on a 2x4. The performance of the bike was also diminished by the Michelin Pro 4 tires, which ride like rocks IMHO. This bike deserve some fast Italian rubber like Veloflex or Vittoria. But those are specs you can work out on your own build.

My perfect build for the Dogma Hydro would be Shimano Di2, Enve 3.4 wheels, Enve cockpit and Veloflex Corsa tires.

This is an outstanding all around bike. I think its most at home on long rides or gran fondos. For a pure race bike, there are better options, like the Merlin Empire, but for those seeking the purest Italian road bike experience on top of a superbly crafted machine, the Dogma Hydro fits the bill.

Hit me up directly with any questions about the Dogma Hydro. btowery@backcountry.com

4 5

Tire width recommendation

  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

The tolerance between tire and fork/chainstays are extremely tight with the Hydro. I would suggest sticking with a 23mm wide tire to avoid scratching up the inside of the fork and chainstays. If you have any questions, please contact me: brett@competitivecyclist.com

Responded on

I just finished my build and decided to go with 25mm vittoria's on the Enve 3.4s. Brett is right - the tolerance is tight - but so far all is good. The 25mm ride was worth the risk...and I gotta say my # of yearly flats has gone down 65% since I moved to the wider tires and slightly lower pressures.... of course, you'll see me by the side of the road tomorrow morning now that I've said that.........

5 5

Warning-Buy Torque Tools!

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times

If you decide to purchase an expensive carbon bike like the Pinarello Dogma Think2, you spend a little more money and invest in the right tools for tightening down components as specified by the bike manufacturer. Without the proper torque tools you have the potential to damage and destroy your bike and components that are made out of carbon. Over and under tightening components on your bike poses serious safety risks to the rider while on the road.

To guarantee that your stem, handle bars, seatpost, shoe cleats etc.. and whatever else will need torquing are tightened to manufacturers specs, I would highly recommend the following tools. They both come with various sockets, hex and Torx heads needed to tighten down various components on your bike.

Topeak D-Torq Wrench DX (digital) $215
Torque from 4 to 80 Nm, can configure for NM, ft/lb, or kg/cm
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/topeak-d-torq-wrench-dx

Shimano PRO Torque Wrench (mechanical) $99
This is a very versatile tool and has an adjustable range from 0-15 Nm in 0.4Nm increments.
http://www.artscyclery.com/Shimano_PRO_Torque_Wrench/descpage-SHTW.html

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