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There's a new top dog in town.

Conceptualizing the 8th edition of Pinarello's revered Dogma platform originated last summer, at that time when the Italian brand's proven Dogma 65.1 was in the process of claiming yet another victory at le Tour under Team Sky's command. It was there that two of the UK squad's top sponsors agreed to partner on the bold endeavor, a project set to shatter the standards previously set by the multiple tour-winning 65.1.

Yes, we're talking about the supercar engineering team at Jaguar joining forces with Pinarello for the development of the all-new Dogma F8 — a complete ground-up redesign of what many called perfect. And in true Pinarello fashion, testing results of the recently released frame speak for themselves. Sharing the 65.1's finely tuned geometry, the machine's refined design, courtesy of material upgrades and fresh tube shapes, yields a race bike that lays claim to a 47% improvement in aerodynamics, a 16% more balanced feel, a 12% increase in rigidity, all while shaving 120 grams over the previous version in the process. Welcome to the future of asymmetric engineering.

Sticking with its proven ally in composite development, Pinarello again relied on Japanese carbon fiber supplier Toray for the F8's build. While the 65.1's 65-ton 65HM1K Nano-alloy Carbon Fiber was a carbon more rigid and reactive than anything Pinarello had previously used, Toray had an exclusive new material for the F8: Torayca T1100 1K Dream Carbon with Nano-alloy technology. While the name is certainly impressive, its application is even more so. T1100 is the current go-to outer skin for many modern aircrafts, and its stiffness-to-weight ratio is nothing short of stunning. Compared to a 940-gram, size 54cm Dogma 65.1 built with Toray's 65HM1K, the same frame built with T1100K weighs nearly 80 grams less, while retaining the same structural characteristics. But weight, of course, is only a slice of the Dogma F8 equation, as we all know tube shape application also plays a vital role in the bike's handling and overall efficiency.

Starting at the front of the frame, Pinarello applied its new Onda F8 fork, which, at 360 grams is 10% (40g) lighter and reduces fork drag by roughly 40% compared to the previous Onda 2. The new fork has been derived from that of Pinarello's TT-specific Bolide, wearing an optimized surface profile that works with airflow from the front wheel. The blades wear a somewhat "bowed" or convex stance, which Jaguar's engineers say is the sweet spot where air stays attached — reducing the size of the wake — without creating too large a frontal zone.

Moving to the frame, Jaguar's engineering expertise came into play through the use of CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics), as well as using Pinarello's existing 65.1 Dogma as a baseline, in which more than 70 frame configurations and 300 CFD analysis cycles yielded the most aerodynamically efficient frame possible. Integral to these analyses was the implementation of Pinarello's new tube shaping, dubbed FlatBack. A cross-section view of this shape reveals an ovalized frontal section paired with a rather truncated back half, which was done to create a vacuum that eliminates turbulence. So while a true aerodynamic tube profile wears a non-UCI-legal 8:1 ratio, Pinarello applied the maximum 3:1 allowable ratio to the front half, without the drag-inducing ovalized rear half. The result is a tube profile that contributes to the frame's overall increase in aerodynamic efficiency, while maintaining the rigidity and ride quality of its predecessor.

You'll undoubtedly notice the seamless integration of the fork with the tapered 1 1/8 to 1 1/2in streamlined head tube and oversized FlatBack down tube. At the bottom bracket junction, Pinarello stuck with its proven Italian-threaded BB, a design choice it stands by for both reliability and overall rigidity. The F8's asymmetric chainstays are paired with the new Onda RS F8 seatstays, which are positioned low — meeting the seat tube farther down — and wear a more concave shape in comparison to the previous 65.1's stays. This lower design hides the rear brake cluster, along with the new TwinForce integrated seatpost clamp, thus improving the airflow past this rear section of the bike. Additionally, the extensive CFD testing revealed that by lowering the seat tube water bottle mounts, less drag resulted. Because of this, Pinarello incorporated three holes on the seat tube for two bottle mounting positions.

Pinarello's asymmetric design philosophy is ever-present in the Dogma F8, as its engineers again restudied the forces in action as a rider sprints on the pedals, pulls on the handlebars, and muscles the bike through corners. FEA (Finite Element Analysis) confirmed that the 65.1 Dogma's asymmetrical design was beneficial in leveling the variances in frame deflection from one side to the other, which is why the F8's tubes have been arranged in a similar, albeit more asymmetric (16% more), layup to better balance drive-side forces.

As with the 65.1, carefully engineered internal cable routing on the new F8 allows for you to easily choose between either mechanical or electronic shifting systems, without any penalty to the bike's aesthetic or its aerodynamic profile. The F8 features interchangeable cable stops at the frame openings that are capable of being intuitively swapped out should you select different drivetrains throughout the life of the frame. Along these lines, the carbon Air8 seatpost accepts both Shimano Di2 and Campagnolo EPS battery packs, but you'll need the mounting hardware, sold separately.

The Pinarello Dogma F8 Frameset is available in 13 sizes from 42 to 62cm. It comes in the colors 950 Naked Red, 951 Naked Silver, 952 Carbon Red, 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 954 White Carbon Red, 956 Red, and 958 Team Sky.

Tech Specs

Frame Material:
Toray T1100 1K Dream Carbon Fiber
Fork:
Onda F8
Fork Material:
Toray T1100 1K Dream Carbon Fiber
Steer Tube Type:
1-1/8 x 1-1/2 tapered
Dropout Type:
[integrated carbon] vertical
Replaceable Rear Derailleur Hanger:
yes
Head Tube Diameter:
1.125 x 1.5 in
Headset Included:
yes
Bottom Bracket Type:
Italian
Front Derailleur Mount:
braze-on type [removable]
Seat Collar:
integrated
Seatpost Diameter:
n/a
Cable Routing:
internal
Frame-Only Weight:
[size 54cm w/o paint and hardware] 860 g
Fork Weight:
360 g
Recommended Use:
road racing
Manufacturer Warranty:
3 years
Actual Weight:
952 Carbon Red, 42cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 44cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 46.5cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 50cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 51.5cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 53cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 54cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 55cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 56cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 57.5cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 59.5cm: 1,850g 952 Carbon Red, 62cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 42cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 44cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 46.5cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 50cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 51.5cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 53cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 54cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 55cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 56cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 57.5cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 59.5cm: 1,850g 953 Black Yellow Fluo, 62cm: 1,850g

Geometry chart

Pinarello

Geometry Chart

 

Dogma F8
 

Seat Tube

(c-c)

Effective Top Tube

(eTT)

Stack

(S)

Reach

(R)

Head Tube

(HT)

Seat Tube Angle

(ST°)

Head Tube Angle

(HT°)

Bottom Bracket Drop

(BBD)

Chainstay

(CS)

42  42.0cm 49.8cm 49.3cm 35.1cm 10.5cm 74.4° 69.2° 6.7cm 40.6cm
44  44.0cm 50.3cm 50.1cm 35.7cm 11.0cm 74.4° 70.0° 6.7cm 40.6cm
46.5 46.5cm 51.5cm 51.2cm 36.7cm 11.5cm 74.4° 70.5° 7.2cm 40.6cm
 47 47cm 52.5cm 52.5cm 37.3cm 12.5cm 74.0° 71.4° 7.2cm 40.6cm
50 50.0cm 52.5cm 52.0cm 37.4cm 12.0cm 74.0° 71.4° 7.2cm 40.6cm
51.5 51.5cm 53.5cm 52.7cm 38.0cm 12.5cm 73.7° 72.0° 7.2cm 40.6cm
53 53.0cm 54.5cm 54.2cm 38.6cm 13.9cm 73.7° 72.5° 7.2cm 40.6cm
54 54.0cm 55.0cm 55.0cm 38.6cm 14.7cm 73.4° 72.8° 7.2cm 40.6cm
55 55.0cm 55.7cm 56.1cm 38.9cm 15.8cm 73.4° 72.8° 7.2cm 40.8cm
56 56.0cm 56.5cm 56.9cm 39.1cm 16.5cm 73.0° 73.2° 7.2cm 40.8cm
57.5 57.5cm 57.5cm 58.4cm 39.7cm 17.9cm 73.0° 73.7° 7.2cm 40.8cm
59.5 59.5cm 58.7cm 61.2cm 39.4cm 21.5cm 72.4° 73.4° 6.7cm 40.8cm
62 62.0cm 62.0cm 65.1cm 41.0cm 25.5cm 72.0° 73.4° 6.7cm 41.1cm

Geometry Chart

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Can you post some pictures of the different sizes? I would like to see how 44, 46.5, 47 and 50 looks with the sloping top tube.

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Hello there, thanks for the question, would you mind getting in touch with me at tjackson@backcountry.com? I'd like to send some photos directly to you.

5 5

simply Amazing

I recently purchased an F8 after debating between several bikes. I am extremely happy with my decision as this is the best performing bike I have owned. My last bike was a Dogma 65.1 and i could noticeably feel the difference in weight and speed between both bikes. Its made my ride faster and has given me more confidence to tackle longer,harder races. Competitive Cyclist was awesome to work with and made the transaction easy. Special thanks to Wes for helping in the process. If you are on the fence about this bike-pull the trigger. You will not regret it!

Responded on

Glad to Help!...these are amazing bikes and superfast!

wbranham@competitivecyclist.com
801-736-6396 x 4074

5 5

How many Percent of T1100 do it contain?

I'd like to know how many Percent of T1100 do it contain?

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Pinarello doesn't disclose how much of the fiber they use but Pinarello claims the material is exceptionally strong and stiff, allowing engineers to boost stiffness while also reducing weight. When you consider both the tube shapes and new carbon, the F8’s stiffness improves more than 20 percent compared to the 65.1 Think 2

Wes

Are the two color options the only ones that you guys will carry, or are the other color ways also available upon request?

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We currently have inventory of most Naked Rec (950) and Carbon Red (952). The rest of the colors aren't being released until later this fall (early Nov for the next colors). If you have any questions feel free to reach out to me direct. My number here is 801-736-6396 x 5630 or email adewitt@competitivecyclist.com

5 5

WOW

  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

This has to be one of the best looking bikes Pinarello has ever produced. Unfortunately there's a bit of an issue with the custom configurator right now so give us a shout and we would be happy to help with a build or a quote.

If you have any questions feel free to reach out to me direct. My number here is 801-736-6396 x 5630 or email adewitt@competitivecyclist.com

5 5

Finally, perfect balance...

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

A few salient details: 200 lbs, 6'0" (57.5cm), 300 watt hr, a bit of a masher, like to climb more than anything but still find myself out for 100 mile rolling days, used to own a bike shop and have ridden a ton of bikes...

With that, my favorite bikes have been a Cervelo R3SL for climbing prowess and my Dogma 60.1 for all-day comfort (and it was the best descending bike ever). The Cervelo ended up being too harsh for all day and I had three frame warranty's in a row. The Dogma 60.1 was super cozy but missed the snappiness of the Cervelo so I threw down for the Dogma F8.

Qualitatively, the bike is perfection. Smooth as silk downhill, spritely and light feeling uphill with amazing lateral stiffness from a big masher like me. It generally feels like I am one gear better than before (3-teeth). I don't seem to hit the 28t unless it's well over 10% grade. On the Dogma 60.1, I'd be in 28t at 8%. I've had her out for several 6-8,000' days over 70-113 miles and I had low to no road fatigue except where there was endless miles of chip-sealed surface.

On the quantitative side, I am getting PRs all over the place with relatively consistent fitness. I saved over 1 minute on a 6%, 1.5 mile hill with 450' of climbing (9.30 to 8.15 minutes) and have been descending faster, too. I can't fault this bike in any way. It built up to 14.6 lbs with Enve 25s (Clincher), SRAM Red, and Zipp controls. This is over 1.2 lbs lighter than the Dogma 60.1 with the same build. Interestingly, the fact that it feels faster probably makes me ride faster...

This is an undeniably amazing bike!

5 5

It's better, not by much, but better.

  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

Built it last night and test it today, so I am not sure about sustain speed yet, this is where better aerodynamics should shine. As pictured the F8 is 13 pounds 5 ounces, 65.1 is 13 pounds 15 ounces. I transferred the components from my SLR01 (except the BB and crank), and the SLR01 tips the scale at 13 pounds 2 ounces. Weight difference between the dogmas, other than frame/fork, is mostly the wheelset (90 grams), handlebar (30 grams), stem (5 grams), saddle (15 grams), bottle cages (10 grams), maybe a few grams on the cable housing( rear brake and rear derailleur). It handles really well but so is the 65.1, accelerates like the SLR01 which I think is a tad better than the 65.1, but this could be from the difference in weight. Never climb on it yet and did not time how long I can keep my top speed. But base on my initial ride it should be a little better than the 65.1. Corners really well, hold its line better than my SLR01 but just about even as the 65.1. Just sold my SLR01 to a friend today. This is my 5th Pinarello all I can say is it keeps getting better and lighter. The seat post retainer works the same way as the P4, mine cracked on this area, though cervelo replace it with a P5(free). The strain it exerts on the frame is opposite as a regular clamp, i hope it fairs better than the P4. Thanks Wes

It's better, not by much, but better.
Responded on

Great review Ariel! Glad to help you out once again.

wbranham@competitivecyclist.com
801-736-6396 x 4074

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MATP, the wheel on the F8 is lightweight, EC90(38mm) on the think2. Most of the parts are the same. F8 has the older 'RED black' brake caliper (lighter than the newer aerolink calipers).

5 5

LOVE IT! It doesn't get any better!

  • Gender: Male
  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

Let me preface my comments by stating that I have owned a Dogma 60.1, a Dogma 2, and two Dogma 65.1 bicycles. I've also owned a BMC SLR01 and a Time VXRS UL Team. I currently own a 2015 S-Works Venge. I purchased the Dogma F8 two weeks ago. It is in a league of its own.

Plain and simple....the DOGMA F8 is, by far, the best bike I've ever ridden. Unlike the Dogma 65.1, it is much more comfortable. It is more compliant. It is much faster off of the line and it handles better. It has the same great geometry as the Dogma 65.1 and rides equally well when you are in the groove. It is incredibly stable down hills and it climbs well. It is fast in the flats and it has great power transfer.

It is an incredible bicycle to ride! Fast...Comfortable...Handles like magic. What more can I say?

If you buy it.....you will never look back!

LOVE IT!  It doesn't get any better!
Responded on

Enjoyed working with you. The F8 is indeed a very special bike. Its Pinarello's first aero road bike and their lightest bike ever.Per Pinarello, compared to the 65.1 (which is also amazing) its 120 grams lighter for frame and fork, 12% stiffer (but not harsh), 16% more balanced so it's not twitchy and has 47% less aerodynamic impact. In my opinion it's the best all -around road bike on the market today and many Competitive customers would agree.

**We also have the zero offset seat post available for these but it isn't not listed on our site yet. Contact me direct with questions
wbranham@competitivecyclist.com or 801-736-6396 x 4074
Wes

5 5

PERFORMANCE EXCEEDS THE HYPE

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times

First, Competitive Cyclist is a stand-up company and thanks to their integrity I am one of the fortunate few to clip in the Dogma F8. In addition, I have been working with Mike Nelson since December 2013 and he is an outstanding Customer Solutions Rep! I have logged ~ 110 mi over 2 days since upgrading from the Dogma 65.1 and echo the statements regarding the frame. It is smooth, responsive, and fast. Maiden voyage was 65 miles and felt that I had been riding this frame for months. On one particular climb that I ride often, my average was 1.5mph faster with less effort. I can't say enough about this frame, Pinarello set the gold standard again. Regarding the build, once again, the Di2 internal battery mount is not included, the mechanical plugs on the down-tube are labeled incorrectly; i.e. the L goes on the right side and the R goes on the left side. Finally, be careful if you use the lower seat tube water bottle position. My bottle rubbed against the frame. I would recommend checking the cage position with the bottle to ensure it does not rub. Once again, thanks MIke Nelson and Competitive Cyclist for your outstanding customer service.

PERFORMANCE EXCEEDS THE HYPE
Responded on

Great review Pat! The saddle, wheels, and frame look perfect together, though I might try to talk you into some white bar tape next time you call.

Your riding buddies better start skipping dessert.

Mike Nelson
801-736-6396 X4076
mnelson@competitivecyclist.com

5 5

Nothing Short of Incredible

  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

First you should know I was never a diehard Dogma fan. The 65.1 had great geometry but not the smoothest nor lightest. I don't dislike the older Dogma but never felt the need to own one. The F8 is on a whole new level of smooth and the power transfer is unprecedented. The fork is not only a joy to look at but is equally a joy to ride. Some things in life are so good it is impossible to take them for granted and the F8 is one of those things. Even while riding it in heavy rain at an unsafe hour without lights all I could think of is how wonderful the F8 is to ride. My first impression was beg, barrow, or steal, I need to get one of these.

What is the difference between the size...

What is the difference between the size 47 and 50. They both have the same top tube. Which would have a lower stand over.

Responded on

The headtube is a little longer on the 47 and the reach is just slightly longer on the 50.

5 5

Had to have it the minute Wes emailed me

Ok I admit i love Pinarellos! Wes and Competitive Cyclist had just built me a Dogma Hydro but when Wes sent me the release on the F8 My response immediately back was "I WANT ONE". I have two Graals, a Movistar and the Hydro. I am looking forward to getting on the F8 as I train for Race Accross the West and RAAM. As usual doing a build with Wes is a blast. Just like a kid in the candy store. I want this: no scratch that Wes I want this instead. As soon as it is built i will post a follow up. Big thanks to Wes for being my Italian connection!

Responded on

Its an amazing bike for sure! I enjoyed working with you on this Ray!

wbranham@competitivecyclist.com 801-736-6396 x 4074

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Is the speed/cadence censor built in like the madone? Or does trek have the only bike out with that set up. I just hate seeing these 10k bikes with zip ties on it. How do others handle the cadence/speed sensor? Stages?

3 5

Really?

"16% more balanced feel" - what unit of measure do you use for "balanced feel"? Metric Rocking Horse $hits?

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Sorry. I just had to 'un-flag' this flagged review, least of all because it's so funny. Lighten-up, fellas.

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LOL! I had to do a double take myself when I saw that statement about "16% more balanced feel". My other question is, how can the actual weight of a 42 cm frameset be exactly equal to that of a 62 cm one? Now, I am sure this is a great-riding frame, but the weight is still definitely not in the "light" category. The frame-only weight without paint and hardware is misleading and should not even be published.

Responded on

Pinarello's are not know for being the lightest bikes on the street but their asymmetric design makes them definitely one of the most efficient bikes out there. Compared to the 65.1 it is lighter.

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They may indicate that f8 pinarello frame size should I buy, I used dogma 65.1 size 49 what is the equivalent size in f8 Dogma

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