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Pinarello Dogma F8 Limited Edition Road Frameset - 2016

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Love at first ride.

When Pinarello and Jaguar colluded to design the Dogma F8 Road Frameset, we knew one thing would be true. Whatever the technology, innovations, flashy tube shapes, and grand tour-winning design elements they developed to include in the bike, it was guaranteed to look damn sharp. And now this Limited Edition paint scheme combines the stealth aesthetics of the murdered-out, black-on-black F8 with white branding and the Italian tricolor. We like how the F8 rides, but we love how it looks.

Other than the limited edition paint scheme, this is the same frameset Pinarello designed in cahoots with Jaguar. While we aren't privy to the details of this partnership, it certainly bore fruit. The Dogma F8 improves on Pinarello's previous flagship bike, the 65.1, by mating its Tour-winning geometry with material upgrades and fresh tube shapes for a claimed 47% improvement in aerodynamics, a 16% more balanced feel, a 12% increase in rigidity — all while losing a claimed 120 grams of weight.

The Dogma F8's carbon fiber is provided by another proven industry partner, the venerable carbon geniuses at Toray, whose Japanese factory produces arguably the most consistent, highest quality, and safest carbon in the world. The F8 is made from an all-new Toray masterpiece: T1100 1K Dream Carbon with Nano-alloy technology.

While the name is certainly impressive, its application is even more so. T1100 is the current go-to outer skin for many modern aircrafts, and its stiffness-to-weight ratio is nothing short of stunning. Compared to a 54cm Dogma 65.1 — which was built with Toray's 65HM1K — the F8's T1100K construction weighs nearly 80 grams less while retaining the same structural characteristics. The savvy engineers at Pinarello and Jaguar didn't waste any of these gains, laying-up the carbon in order to maximize the benefits of these penalty-free weight savings.

The partnership's engineering expertise came into play through the use of CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics). Using Pinarello's existing 65.1 Dogma as a baseline, the engineers plotted 70 frame configurations and 300 CFD analysis cycles to realize the most versatile aerodynamic tube shape, which has been given the utilitarian name of FlatBack. This is an apt description, as a cross-section view of this shape reveals an ovalized face paired with an abruptly truncated back half. This shape manages the detachment of turbulent lamina at multiple yaw angles, reducing the drag effect of dead air in the tubes' wake.

As important as weight and aerodynamics have become in top-end bikes, power transfer may still be the most important aspect of a racing machine, and the F8 doesn't disappoint. Pinarello's asymmetric design philosophy is ever-present in the Dogma F8, as its engineers again restudied the forces in action as a rider sprints on the pedals, pulls on the handlebars, and muscles the bike through corners. FEA (Finite Element Analysis) confirmed that the 65.1 Dogma's asymmetrical design was beneficial in leveling the variances in frame deflection from one side to the other, which is why the F8's tubes have been arranged in a similar, albeit more asymmetric (16% more), layup to better balance drive-side forces.

Aerodynamics and efficiency are combined with comfort in the rear triangle, where a pair of fat, asymmetric chainstays are matched with the new Onda RS F8 seatstays. The seatstays are positioned low — meeting the seat tube farther down — and describe a subtle, sinuous curve as they travel from the seat tube to the rear dropout. This rear triangle makes for increased rear stiffness and better power transfer without sacrificing vertical compliance. It also effectively hides the brake cluster and allows for repositioned seat tube water bottle cage bosses. The hidden brakes confer obvious aerodynamic advantages, and Pinarello claims that the lower bottle position also makes for less drag.

The Dogma F8 Frameset is finished off with a redesigned Onda F8 fork, which enjoys a claimed 10% reduction in weight and a 40% reduction in drag. We suspect that the weight reduction comes courtesy of the T1100 carbon, but the improved aerodynamics are definitely the result of some creative cross breeding between the old Onda fork and the TT-specific Bolide fork. The new Onda's blades are slightly convex, which Jaguar's engineers say creates the sweet spot where air stays attached — reducing the size of the wake — without creating too large a leading face.

For all this talk of developing new technologies, the bottom bracket is one area where Pinarello has thankfully refused to "innovate," sticking with the classic threaded Italian option. It's proven, it's stiff, it's Italian, and it stays. That's not to say that the F8 is a last-gen machine — quite the contrary. Its internal cable routing accommodates either mechanical or electronic shifting systems, and the carbon Air8 seatpost accepts both Shimano Di2 and Campagnolo EPS battery packs.

Tech Specs

Frame Material:
Toray T1100 1K Dream Carbon Fiber
Wheel Size:
700 c
Fork:
ONDA F8
Fork Material:
Toray T1100 1K Dream Carbon Fiber
Head Tube Diameter:
1.125 - 1.5 in tapered
Headset Included:
yes
Bottom Bracket Type:
Italian
Cable Routing:
Think 2 (internal)
Front Derailleur Mount:
Braze-on
Brake Type:
rim
Compatible Components:
mechanical, Shimano Di2, Campagnolo EPS
Seat Collar:
TwinForce (integrated)
Dropouts:
vertical
Claimed Weight:
[size 54cm] 1,220 g
Recommended Use:
road race
Manufacturer Warranty:
2 years

sizing chart

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Geometry chart

Pinarello

Geometry Chart

 

Dogma F8
 

Seat Tube

(c-c)

Effective Top Tube

(eTT)

Stack

(S)

Reach

(R)

Head Tube

(HT)

Seat Tube Angle

(ST°)

Head Tube Angle

(HT°)

Bottom Bracket Drop

(BBD)

Chainstay

(CS)

42  42.0cm 49.8cm 49.3cm 35.1cm 10.5cm 74.4° 69.2° 6.7cm 40.6cm
44  44.0cm 50.3cm 50.1cm 35.7cm 11.0cm 74.4° 70.0° 6.7cm 40.6cm
46.5 46.5cm 51.5cm 51.2cm 36.7cm 11.5cm 74.4° 70.5° 7.2cm 40.6cm
 47 47cm 52.5cm 52.5cm 37.3cm 12.5cm 74.0° 71.4° 7.2cm 40.6cm
50 50.0cm 52.5cm 52.0cm 37.4cm 12.0cm 74.0° 71.4° 7.2cm 40.6cm
51.5 51.5cm 53.5cm 52.7cm 38.0cm 12.5cm 73.7° 72.0° 7.2cm 40.6cm
53 53.0cm 54.5cm 54.2cm 38.6cm 13.9cm 73.7° 72.5° 7.2cm 40.6cm
54 54.0cm 55.0cm 55.0cm 38.6cm 14.7cm 73.4° 72.8° 7.2cm 40.6cm
55 55.0cm 55.7cm 56.1cm 38.9cm 15.8cm 73.4° 72.8° 7.2cm 40.8cm
56 56.0cm 56.5cm 56.9cm 39.1cm 16.5cm 73.0° 73.2° 7.2cm 40.8cm
57.5 57.5cm 57.5cm 58.4cm 39.7cm 17.9cm 73.0° 73.7° 7.2cm 40.8cm
59.5 59.5cm 58.7cm 61.2cm 39.4cm 21.5cm 72.4° 73.4° 6.7cm 40.8cm
62 62.0cm 62.0cm 65.1cm 41.0cm 25.5cm 72.0° 73.4° 6.7cm 41.1cm

Geometry Chart

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Limited Edition Italian

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Wes,
First and foremost thanks for this beauty. I've been riding this bike off and on for the last 4 months. Alternate between 3 other trek project one bikes, Domane Koppengerg, Emonda SLR and Madone 9.9. I usually ride the bikes a week at a time.
My Pinarello F8 is very fast, climbs great and descends are fun and comfortable. Frame is very stiff and responsive. Enjoy riding my F8 and have fun on long rides. If your in the market for a great frame I highly recommend on this great investment. Thanks again Wes.

Ivan

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Awesomeness

Build with Super Record Campognolo 11, Campognolo bottles and cages, Enve SES 3/4 with Chris King Hub, Kenda 25mm tires, Bontrager paradigm XXX carbon saddle, Enve stem and computer mount and 3T team carbon handlebars.

Awesomeness