Bought a pair of these because I know how good alpinestars motorcycle gear is and what a let down! They felt OK sitting on the couch but as soon as I took them for the first ride I realized they're too bent. Meaning to fit properly your arms need to be at about 110 degrees, but when riding you're arms fluctuate between like 170 and 90. So they where constantly falling down and even started giving me a blister (on my upper wrist) after 1 run. Returning them as we speak.