I also have Nashbar knee warmers but these LG?s are a step up in quality and fit. I love that the LG knee warmers actually come in sizes. Some of the cheaper knee warmers are one size fits all which doesn?t really work. I was thrilled to able to get a small sized knee warmer for my skinny legs (I?m 5?9? and 143 lbs.) and they work like knee warmers should. They cover my knee, go down to slightly below the knee, and sit slightly above my knee. My other knee warmers come up and go down way too far making them more like leg warmers. Quality is good and they grip well at the top and bottom. I haven?t had any problems with them bunching up under my knee which is a definite issue with the ones from Nashbar. The fabric is quality and they are fleece lined but not overly warm. I wore them in temps that were in the high 60?s and I kept them on all day. Overall they?re a great knee warmer especially for $29.