I got these shorts in large because they run small on waist size. My size was medium, but friend said go bigger. As for liner I had to sell them to friends, but bought other liners. These shorts are strong for durability and stitching. I like all the pockets they have to store stuff and side zippers help to vent air in summer.
I don't see much difference between this pair and singletrack shorts. Worth money to buy them at huck n roll since they put them on sale at a bargain price.