Very stiff chamois
I bought these because I had some Castelli Tyras that I loved. The pad on the Tyras is not near as thick and stiff as the pad on these Vizio Dues. Also, they run smaller than the Tyras. I find Castelli's sizing to be inconsistent for their shorts, but so are a lot of other brands. I would rather spend my money on some other shorts I know I'll get more use out of, such as Giordana.