I could take them or leave them...quality is lacking.
I am on the fence about these shorts. The chamois is great in them but the waist is very big compared to the rest of the short. I wear a size small and in a small, the shorts fit but the waist feels too big, especially by the end of a ride. They are do-able shorts as long as you do not wear warmers with them. The warmers (also Castelli) did something weird to them and made them bunch up on the leg bands. The more I rode, the higher the leg bands rode up...annoying. Additionally, after ONE delicate/cold water wash in a front loading washer, inside out and a flat/hang dry the logo started peeling off. Apparently, all Castelli logos start coming off, either cracking or peeling, within a few wears. Unacceptable.