Good alone but not so good over other pants
I've had these pants for a couple weeks now. There are large enough to go over regular pants without being too baggy. However, I've found that even with the ankle zippers and velcro open all the way it is hard to get them off over my size 11s. Also, they are really warm. I've been wearing just these pants for my commute and changing once I get to work but wish the worked slightly better as an over street pants option.