Excellent for the money: euro fit--up two from American
These are excellent inexpensive Castelli shorts. I have a pair of the $220 Gavia bibs and a pair of the Velcosimas that were $180 and I think these are actually my favorite of the three. The chamois is great and has a little more front coverage than the Gavias. The fabric is excellent--stretchy without being thin--reminds me a little of the fabric on my Craft bibs which I love. The sizing is defintely Euro and is even smaller than the Gavias. I love the XL and I am 6', 175lbs, 32 inch waist, 42 inch chest, with a track specialists thighs and the thighs are just right, but they are definitely on the short side in the bibs--and I have a shorter than average torso. I love them when I am riding because they stay nicely up in the chamois area, but they are not the most comfortable when walking around (if you want bibs for hanging out at the coffee shop you probably shouldn't go with these, but if you want to wear bibs at the coffee you should probably just reconsider that choice altogether for the good name of all cyclists). I would say that when on sale at Real Cyclist these are the best deal you can get on bibs--they blow any other $50 bib out of the water and are better than my $150 Pearls and Descentes.