Do these shorts come with a liner or not?...
Do these shorts come with a liner or not? The specs say no, but the description makes it sound like it does.
I looked on the Gore site; they show these with the little (+) sign, which always means the item comes with some sort of chamois/liner, and these do have the liner on the Gore site. In fact, that's the only version of these shown. Their list price is $179. which is another way to identify. They say it comes with a removable pants liner with pad. Gore usually offers both options, so the description here reads "available", then these must not have the liner...you would have to purchase it separately. Hope this Helps.
These might be a older version.
Hi, the Gore Bike Wear Alp-X Plus Shorts are listed separately on Backcountry. Here's a link:
Same shell, but they cost a bit more and include a very good-quality liner short.