Assos T.cento_S7 Bib Shorts - Men's

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Six years in the making.

Assos' engineers worked with their Werksmannschaft factory team riders over the past six years to develop the all-new T.cento_s7 Bib Shorts. These stand as a testament to the Swiss brand's dedication to fit and function perfection, as they are the next generation of the proven FI.Mille. There are four new "mission-specific" models of bib shorts within Assos' technical-feature-laden _s7 lineup, with the T.cento _s7 aligning itself as the long distance, comfort-oriented option. The next level of Assos bib short innovation has officially arrived.

The main Assos-specific textile that makes up the paneling of the T.cento_s7 bib shorts is called Type.439. This fabric is used for the panels of the T.cento_s7, as it's incredibly comfortable and supportive. The material provides exceptional breathability, and it rapidly transfers moisture to its quick-drying outer surface. Additionally, this smooth fabric provides a moderately compressive hold, which, in turn, supports the muscle groups of the legs. As a result, these muscles are partially shielded from the fatigue-inducing effects of muscle oscillation that are derivative of road vibration. Countless prototypes tested by Assos' very own Werksmannschaft (the Assos factory team) riders proved to Assos engineers that this exclusive textile provides the ideal blend of compressive support and low weight. And like the other fabrics composing the rest of the _s7 bib shorts line, Type.439 was finished with an iceColor application, which is similar to Coldblack cooling technology in that it effectively reduces surface temperature in dark fabrics.

Assos engineered these bib shorts to provide a slightly asymmetrical compressive hold that stretches more around your body, rather than vertically. This tuned stretch works to firmly secure the shorts in place while down in the cycling position, feeling more dialed while sitting in the saddle than while standing upright. This feeling has long been known to Assos' devoted followers as the signature "click on" fit. This Advanced Ergonomic Pattern Design (AEPD) fit is ever-present with the _s7 line, and it's been further enhanced by its new Y7 bib strap design. While the _s5's straps were spot-on from a comfort perspective, this latest generation's straps have been moved outward in the front slightly for better support. For example, while positioned over the hoods or down in the drops, traditional bib straps generally create a gap away from the torso between the collarbone and upper hips. But by aligning the straps outward, more along the obliques, the straps hug the torso, mimicking the body's movements without any gap, regardless of on-the-bike positioning.

Now for the heart of the T.cento's technological dominance: the chamois. While we're always reluctant to use the phrase "game changer" in anything we describe, the research and development of the chamois might just warrant an exception. Assos is calling it the "kuKuPenthouse." Yes, that is the name, and we'll get to its meaning momentarily. But first, as with all of the _s7 collection, it wears the new amethyst color. According to Assos, this purple hue was chosen to pay homage to the clothing of Roman emperors, English monarchs, and members of Japanese aristocracy, as the historically-significant color highlights what it calls the "most technically advanced cycling shorts on Earth."

As the top-tier chamois within the _s7 line, the kuKuPenthouse received every one of the new technical innovations to emerge from Assos' extensive product testing. The engineers began with a 10mm-thick memoryFoam material. This was first introduced with the venerable _s2 FI.13, as its shock absorbing composition returns to its original position, "filling the gap," every time pedaling position is changed in the saddle through the shift of weight. The memoryFoam features multiple layers, with its superAir and waffle composition making up the first two. This perforated design works to increase breathability and to shed weight. Additionally, this dimpling, combined with the ultra-soft microfiber top sheet, effectively pulls moisture from within the layers below, which allows it to dry much quicker than the previous _s5 chamois. Once Assos got the chamois layup to their standards, the engineers began rethinking the way a traditional chamois is attached to the shorts. This led them to what they are calling the "goldenGate," which involves interrupting the stitching along both of the chamois' side panels, allowing a more "three-dimensional" freedom of movement in this sensitive, rotational area. Additionally, because the seams are eliminated, friction is minimized even further. But if that weren't enough, Assos went ahead and bonded its lightly-padded anatomical side flaps over this short-to-chamois junction, making the transition against your skin as smooth as possible.

And while the aforementioned is impressive, the true magic of this chamois is located at the front, as Assos removed the section of padding where a male cyclist's genitals would normally contact the chamois. In place of the padding is a soft, brushed microfiber layer, which creates a "nest," or cradle into which the genitals are comfortably supported, free of the chamois' foam padding. This is where the kuKuPenthouse name is derived, which is truly a first in chamois construction. Pressure is thus eliminated in this area, and ventilation is increased substantially compared to a traditional chamois. The overall chamois design was then finished off with a "rearTerminal" at the back — where the chamois' rear portion meets the lower back fabric panel — by fitting a smooth layer of durable and wicking microfiber in this high-stress moisture collection zone.

The Assos T.cento_s7 comes in a claimed weight of 185g. The leg panels were finished off with new low-volume, calibrated-stretch superFlat grippers to keep the cuffs securely in place, and small Assos logos accent the shorts throughout. They are available in seven sizes from X-Small to TIR and in the color Black Volkanga.

Tech Specs

Material:
[paneling] Type.439 (73% polyamide/nylon, 17% Elastane, 10% polyester)
Fit:
comfort/support
Chamois:
yes, kuKuPenthouse
Chamois Thickness:
10 mm
Removable Chamois:
no
Leg Gripper:
superFlat silicone
Bib:
yes, Y7 frame carrier bibTech
Actual Weight:
Black Volkanga, M: 185g
Recommended Use:
long distance cycling
Manufacturer Warranty:
limited

Size chart

Assos

Men's Apparel
Shorts
 XSSMLXLXLGTIR
Leg & Knee Warmers 0 I II
Height 4ft 11in - 5ft 2in
(150 - 159cm)
5ft 3in - 5ft 6in
(160 - 169cm)
5ft 7in - 5ft 10in
(170 - 179cm)
5ft 11in - 6ft 1in
(180 - 185cm)
6ft 1in - 6ft 3in
(186 - 190cm)
6ft 3in - 6ft 5in+
(191 - 195cm+)
XLG but wider
Tops
 XSSMLXLXLGTIR
Arm Warmers 0 I II
Chest 35.4in
(90cm)
37.8in
(96cm)
39.4in
(100cm)
40.2in
(102cm)
43.3in
(110cm)
45.7in
(116cm)
46.5+ in
(118cm)
How to Measure:
For best results, take measurements over your underwear.
Chest:
Measure around the widest part of your chest.

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Got Baboon Butt?

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: True to size
  • Size Bought: medium

I have been a Assos fan for many years. I was super excited when I bought these shorts. The soft pocket for your junk is wonderful and the cut of the shorts is very nice. The padding in the chamois seems like it will do the trick at first, but then actually riding them tells a different story. I was frustrated when ASSOS changed all models in the lineup and I had to re-learn all of the names and figure out what everything was. I have noticed that with the new line prices have gone way up and the items are only a little better...Until I bought these. They suck. I have been trying to make them work for two years now. They sit in my drawer until all other shorts have been used, and then I try to give them a try. Always the same result. Chaffing. The longer you ride the worse the chaffing. So if you want to come home with a bad case of baboon butt, buy these shorts. I can not explain how the hell they made it on the market. They claim to be engineered for "long" rides, but are the most uncomfortable shorts in the lineup! If I was Assos, I would recall all of these shorts and pull them off the line. They suck.

Got Baboon Butt?
Avg. ride time: 17h 19m per week
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Worth the money. Straps are tight

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
  • Fit: True to size
  • Size Bought: small

I've ridden about 3800 miles on these and I'm basically reduced to a guy who owns one pair of shorts as all my other shorts (Castelli, Capo, Rapha, and Craft) pale in comparison. I haven't once worn another pair since I bough these. The design is almost perfect. The straps are uncomfortably tight for me when I'm standing, but perfect when on the bike. I tried the mediums but they were too big in the middle, so the smalls are best for me.

I wash these EVERY SINGLE TIME I wear them, in a wash bag. I use Ecover wash, and the shorts have yet to show any signs of wear.

Highly recommended.

Avg. ride time: 9h 6m per week
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Much Needed Relief

  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
  • Fit: True to size
  • Size Bought: Medium

I ride about 250 miles per week, and the limiting factor is usually seat pain. I experimented with numerous saddles but couldn't get past the 3 hour mark with the bibs I'd been using.



I purchased the S7 Cento earlier today and took them for a 65 mile test ride when I got home. What a huge -- almost unbelievable -- difference these shorts made.



Not only was I comfortable for the entire ride, but my lap times were even closer than usual. I was shocked when I realized how many minutes I'd been giving up to discomfort.



The Penthouse is worth every penny. I've done a lot of rides trying to adjust the twig'n'berries, up-down-left-right, slathering on the Chamois Butt'r and keeping my fingers crossed, but often arrived home with some bits chafed bloody. (See photo - yes that's blood.)



With these bibs, I feel like I can finally start putting in more miles without having to bail due to discomfort.



I hope you have a similar experience.

Much Needed Relief

The best yet.

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: True to size
  • Size Bought: Medium

I own four different shorts currently. Castelli, Bellweather, Craft, and These: Assos T Cento S7's. For longer rides of 60+ miles, these will be the shorts I always wear. The fit and comfort of these easily justifies the price. I wear a medium size, and these fit perfectly.

Avg. ride time: 5h 46m per week
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Addressing the controversy

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: True to size

These are not one-star shorts. There have been enough changes to bring out the vitriol, though, so let's compare these S7/T.Centos to the S5/F1 Mille, and the old school F1 Mille. Besides Assos making bets in-house about how feminine they can make these colors and still get hundreds of dollars for them from us (I cringe at what's next--pink lace?), there are big differences, differences that matter on your longest rides.

The universally-loved S5s were, believe it or not, a controversial change from the old orange F1 Mille. The orange Cytech chamois was a classic and is still used by Rapha and Search & State. The orange pad still feels denser than either the S5 or the new S7, and is rougher than either of the new ones. The S7 pad is actually marginally thicker than the S5, and appears to be made similarly well and is the same size. It's safe to figure that the S7 chamois has the same durability and comfort as the S5, which is saying a lot. The big difference--the entire value of these shorts, really--is in the black, blank spot on the S7 chamois. There is a cutout so there is no pressure at all on the genital area. These are revolutionary in comfort, with no pad or pressure where it is harmful.

There have been some complaints about them fitting small. Now, I'm 6'5" / 190 and have been wearing "large" bibs from Assos forever. In Assos-land, "large" means "gangly," not "chubby." If you're comparing these to a Pearl Izumi large, it's going to be very different. Assos has always been like this, and frankly cyclists who ride so much that these short make financial sense are more likely to have the body shape Assos is aiming for--you're never going to stretch a pair of these over Axl Rose. Nevertheless, I don't find that these are materially different on the bike, but standing around they feel pretty small. Why? Let's review.

There doesn't seem to be a long-leg version like there was with the S5, so you're probably going to feel like these are a couple inches short, and that feels constraining. The leg opening size is the same on the S5 and S7. The thinner material is harder to get ahold of and adjust without pinching yourself, so it might feel tighter and more irritating until you get it all lined up. It seems to have less volume, but the measurements seem consistent from the S5 and S7.

The bib straps were probably a mistake. They are an unforgiving elastic strap similar to what a heart rate monitor strap might be made of. They have a lot less give than the old S5 straps, and there is just less material on the S7s. The picture I attached shows the shorts hanging from a closet bar, with another closet bar run through the two pairs of shorts. They were even to start, but the bar pulled the S5 shorts down more, indicating that the S5s have more give. So you seem to get less volume and less give on the upper half of these shorts, and it is less comfortable. There's a lot of tension in these straps and they definitely have more pull power than the S5 straps. I don't see why they made this change unless it was to save on production costs. I'll say that the chamois makes up for it, and you don't have these aggressive straps constantly squashing your junk because the chamois keeps the pressure off. I would still greatly prefer the old S5 straps with the new chamois, but the point is moot on the bike, where the straps seem more lined up and pulling up the back instead of the front. It works, somehow.

Over all, was it worth it? I think so; I mean, I won't go hit up the other sites to clean out their S5 inventory. The chamois is pretty incredible, and the other parts of it don't detract enough. Sure, I just paid $600 for two pairs of shorts, so I guess I'm committed now, but I think they have already been effective on long rides with relentless climbs.

Addressing the controversy

Great review. I've owned the S7's for over a year, put on thousands of miles and this bib is fantastic!

Great review so thank you. I just ordered a pair but I'm returning them as they are just too short. I'm not that tall or wide (5'9", 145 lbs), and not that long legged (more of a longer torso), but there feel REALLY short relative to my Giordanas and Garneau team shorts.

My question is do I buy the S7 in a large, or do I go hunting for the "long legged" version of the S5s? Not having owned Assos shorts I'm flying a bit blind here. Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.

Eugene: if you really can't stand the shorter leg, head to the internet for S5 long leg, don't try to make these work. Bet that Assos offers the long leg next year. I trained this spring in mostly S5s and wore the S7s for a very long sunny event, and now I have a hilarious 1/2" sunburn at the top of my legs, it's a badge of honor.

yes game changer but to the worst......

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: Runs small

S7 have no proper fit, or you have a perfect body type or they don`t fit well and the golden gate pads are just scratching like a crazy. I have the whole S5 series and it was perfect. this S7 are a disaster and not to say about the seams, are crazy annoying! and the pads are too long in the front part and crash with your growing.

I agree. The kuku pad is abrasive for people who ride arse-settled-on-the-saddle.

Assos outlet is still selling S5 FI Milles on closeout. Maybe if enough people buy them and email the message, "Keep making these," they will.

Also, if I can completely disqualify myself, Brooks B17 saddles are fantastic for senior citizen riders who want to ride 3oo miles per week.

Younger riders can pooh-pooh this, but are you going to be riding when you are 60?

Avg. ride time: 2h 49m per week
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Once "Clicked In" They Are Perfect

  • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
  • Fit: True to size

I purchased these bibshorts believing the reviews and marketing of ASSOS that they are made specifically for long rides. I was set to ride the 100 mile Gran Fondo New York and thought I would give them a try. I tend to have a sensitive bottom (occasional numbness and sit bone issues) and worked through many saddles before settling on the Selle Italia SLR Superflow. Then I began trying different bibshorts looking for long ride comfort. I've tried Castelli and have been relatively happy with the Progetto X2 chamois but the Castelli sizing is just not right for me. The XXL is slightly too tight and short in the torso and the XXXL is slightly too big. I've tried the Specialized RBX Comp and RBX Pro and have been generally happy but depending on the day, any ride longer than two hours, I may begin to shift around looking for the sweet spot. Once I got the chamois in the right position and "clicked in" (an ASSOS marketing term) I was good to go. The bibs just disappeared and did their job. The straps are wide and the most comfortable I have ever worn. The KuKu Penthouse is all that the hype says it is. The soft no compression fabric allows your junk to rest comfortably where ever you put it - left, right, up, down - you guys know what I mean. The chamois will not be for everyone because the cushioning is substantial. I prefer that for longer rides and it was superb. The memory foam does not compress flat but provides nice support. I like the lack of billboard graphics found on many Castelli bibs. I did find myself noticing other ASSOS wearers by the identifying purple tag on the rear of the bib. I saw many more than I would have expected given the price. Also, the graphics on the bib straps is a nice touch and eliminates the need for a tag offering washing instructions. Overall, I like this bib for long rides and find myself looking for other ASSOS products because so far they give you what you pay for.

Once "Clicked In" They Are Perfect

Disappointed

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: True to size

Quality is great but the concept is confused. I've worn the Mille shorts for years and appreciated each revision, but I'm mixed on this one. First: Compression. Conforming-comfort? Impressive. Compressive-comfort? Not as. Labeled "medium"; I'd say "light" compression. The Mille's felt more balanced, the fabric, more substantial. Perhaps the Cento's lost some in pursuit of the almighty gram? Second: Chamois. The Penthouse is crazy-comfortable, and I especially like not having to stop and re-arrange. But surprisingly, the sit bone cushioning feels less than that of my now-tired Mille's. Hard to figure with all that loft. Third: Straps. The stitchless straps feel great. (As do the superFlat leg grippers!) But beneath my Assos Mangussta jersey (half black, half white) the ridiculous rear graphics show through the white badly. The Mille straps were wisely made totally black. A lesser issue, but really dorky-looking. Fourth: The outside of the Penthouse looks like a crocheted Speedo overlay. Again a lesser issue, but really dorky. Fifth: The dip in the front and side panels (1-2" lower than the Mille's) Sure, easier nature breaks (1 minute); but less supportive (hours of riding).

Adding it all up, this is probably where I'll part company with Assos long distance shorts.

Sorry, for $330 I feel I've earned the right to speak up.

Update: Is anyone noticing the Assos warranty? "Customer service that fits the performance of our products". 3 months. Uh-huh. Does all their marketing braggadocio fit "3 months"? My first $200 Mangussta Jersey began to unravel at the back of the neck, early on. No broken thread, just unraveled. Would Assos stand behind it? Nope. But I can say from experience that Competitive Cyclist has excellent customer service.

make junior happy!

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: True to size
  • Size Bought: medium

once in ..the comfort is phenomenal! when you do century rides, the feeling of your private not in the right place is bothersome. it holds true pre/mid/post rides! the fabric is tight compression and durable but not constricting . i sat on selle smp( with embossed stitching on sides) with no rubbing /scrapping noted on the groin area unlike my other bib shorts. beware though!!!!!... it feels like your wearing a diaper off bike but for century ride this is the best!

Avg. ride time: 2h 29m per week
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If i wanted a pair of tights in the same general construction/sizing as the t.cento_s7, which product should i be looking at?

Assos just released their new s7 bibtights in Oct 2015.

The Mille bibtights ($270) feature slight more forgiving comforFit (similar to the T.Cento shorts you ask about); RX heavy front panels; and the "long-distance Mille insert."

The Habu bibtights ($390) feature RX medium main panels, stratagon textile in the lower abdomen, and the insert from the Equipe bibshorts.

The Bonka bibtights ($500) feature the warmest textiles and the kuKuPenthouse -same as in the T.Cento and Campionissimo bibshorts.

Which model you purchase depends upon your needs and how much money you are willing to part with. I think the Mille bib tights are roughly the most corresponding to the T.Cento shorts you ask about.

Avg. ride time: 9h 59m per week
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I'm a normal size American...

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
  • Fit: True to size
  • Size Bought: Medium

And these things fit amazing. The comfort level of doing a 100 miles in this babies are 2nd to none. The only negative is that the legs are a little short than I would like but not super short, just a little shorter.

Assos T Cento shorts

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: True to size
  • Size Bought: Large

Great fit - very comfortable. The "cut-out" in the insert really prevents overheating

Yep - Straight up suck

    100Kgs 185cm rider. I've ridden enough miles to know what are good knicks and I'm 100% sure that these suck. Chamois causes damage to the skin every time, even with cream. I get better results from the $80 ones off ebay... guess I'm just lucky. caveat emptor.

    I agree 100% from the S5 to the S7 there was a vertical fall, hope Assos understands that.

    bring back the old assos.... the style, comfort way better.

    Almost Perfect

    • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

    I bought these to replace my go-to Fi 13s that the paramedic cut off after I bounced and slid on a night group ride. He apologized, but I shed a small tear to see my favorites shorts snipped off (why couldn't I have been wearing my old Castellis!)

    Aside from the excellent material, fit, and construction two things stand out for me with these shorts. First is the most excellent Chamois that is very thick and plush. Second is the Penthouse that eliminates any discomfort or necessary rearrangements.

    Minor items that are, to me, kinda strange for Assos is that they cause my back to itch when I first put them on. There is a section on the top of the back where the straps join. At that junction the seams are itchy. I usually don't feel it after I work up a sweat, but I have never felt that before with Assos.

    A second item is that the way the chamois is stitched on to the fabric causes the outside fabric to slide on the saddle a bit. I don't know whether this is an intended effect, and I don't dislike it, but it feels odd nonetheless.

    I like these shorts and will keep them but wish the paramedic had not julienned my Fi 13's, and that Assos had not administered the coup de grace on the world finest shorts.

    Pato, I *love* my T.cento s7s but I have felt this itching on the upper back also. A spot where the back connects to the shoulder strap causes distinct itching unless I use a baselayer (I usually do, and this solves the problem). I originally thought this was a stitching issue, but upon closer inspection it appears to be a slightly sharp/hard edge (at the corner of the strap) caused by the thermal fabric cutters during manufacture. I was able to *very* carefully cut this away using precision bathroom scissors -though I can't really recommend that anyone else do the same.

    Avg. ride time: 2h 10m per week
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    RAW Tested rider approved

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    I just put these bibs to the test on the 175 mile Ride Across Wisconsin (RAW). I'm a long time ASSOS customer and like all their products that I've used these bibs didn't disappoint. The chamois is at least double the thickness of any chamois I've ever used and it makes a noticeable difference from the first time you butt hits the saddle to the last. For 40 mile and under rides these would be overkill, but for 60 mile plus rides they are in ASSOS's own words GAMECHANGERS. I'm 5' 10" and 188 lbs and the XL fit me perfectly (I'm a Large in domestic brands like Pearl Izumi.) As to the kuKu Penthouse it seems to work well though the greatest comfort impact for me came from the memory foam chamois.

    Avg. ride time: 6h 29m per week
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    Great Bib Shorts

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    Very comfortable on long rides and look great!

    Incredible!

    • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

    I purchased the bibs for a 115 mile ride. I was on the bike for about 7.5 hours. I was totally amazed how comfortable these bibs were. The penthouse was great. I had no irritability. I wish they were cheaper; but in the end, I will be saving up to buy another pair. I am 5'9 and about 180lbs. I purchased a large size; fit a little snug but still very comfortable.

    Try them. I'm keeping mine, but....

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    I got some irritation after a 2 hr ride. With Assos Creme. Switched back to the old S5 FI Milles, no problem.

    Toni Maier is no longer with the company. Almost none of Assos' clothing is still made in Switzerland. I'm not saying this means the company is going downhill, but when a genius cashes in, sometimes the successors keep the brand up, sometimes they don't.

    I've been riding a long time. Which is to say, my "habits" have changed. When I was young, I rode a lot out of the saddle. Uncomfy saddle, no shorts padding, no problem. Middle age, easily stood up when the perineum started protesting. Now, I want to be able to be comfy sitting.
    The S5's (and S2's in my experience) work for older guys. Cento S7 may be "a bridge too far".

    What has been great about Assos is, compared to other companies, is, they don't put out new products every 1-2 years, just to be "current". They design things, and if they "work", they keep them for longer periods.

    Are they omniscient? I dunno. I have a lot of Assos products with zippers. None of them has a YKK zipper. It's true. Check your Assos jackets, jerseys and bib tights.

    I haven't seen Gore wind/water material on Assos' products. Kinda weird. Gore partnered with Assos in designing its Gore Ozon first-gen Ozon long distance shorts, with an Assos/Cytech pad, #1 among RAAM riders.

    I have Sidi shoes, made in Italy, not the outsourced versions, with Gore-Tex liners. I have a Casteilli long-sleeve jersey with Gore WindStopper.
    Assos isn't partnering with Gore for its winter wind-and-water-beating gear, because...

    If anybody says the new Cento S7 is better than the old FI Mille S5, they need to do a century in both, and then report back.

    BTW, I am working against my own interests, but Assos is selling FI Mille S5's. Maybe CC could get some, and in the process, get Assos to keep making them.

    Don't know how I did 2 stars. These are 3.5 stars. Not as ultra comfy for 1500 mi/month use as S5's, maybe as comfy as old Gore Ozon I's, but twice the price. I ride mine a time or two week, and FI. Mille S5's four to five times a week. I just have to stand up a little more to relieve pressure discomfort with the S7's.

    Assos is really good about not changing models every year or two just to be fashionable: they design and build things that work well, and you can't always innovate something truly better quickly.

    If they think that after 5 years, they truly improved upon S5, and CC and its buyers think likewise, who am I to argue? It's just, for me, S5's are are more comfy the heavy-sitter.

    I wash them daily, so I can use them!

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    After having ridden the best of the best from nearly every manufacturer out there, I didn't expect to have such intense affection for these bibs.

    The first point of interest to me were the bib straps, which with their width and fabric are the perfect width and texture to make it feel almost as if you're not wearing anything above your waist.

    The level of compression of the fabric of the shorts is perfect; a touch tighter than the average bear, but not as constricting as a "compression" designed short; you could not ask anything more of the fit and finish of these bibs!

    As for the chamois, the thickness and density is just perfect to notice that you have significantly improving your saddle comfort, but not so much as to feel like a diaper.

    If I could describe a bib short as perfect, these would check every box.

    What are your measurements and what size do you have?

    I am 5'10", 31" waist and about 150lbs at most. I wear Mediums in these as well as every other brand of clothing I have worn for the last 10 years. The fit is very similar to Castelli and Louis Garneau as far as sizing goes.

    I just get some scrotum rub that's not comfy. The old S5 pads are less irritating. But I sit on my butt a lot. If people judge I'm an old fat ass, that's exactly true. But here's the thing, or two: there are lots of shorts that work fine for people who get out of the saddle a lot. When I rode an Italian bike in 1962, with Tulio supervising the production line 2 x 5 Record, and I was 4'9' and weighed 110#, I didn't need any padding.
    Not even when I was still on the same bike, 5'9", 135#.

    But I got older. A lot of people have gotten older. I don't think Assos is making a hit with 20-35 y/o Pro Tour team riders, or at least not their sponsors. My read is that when you are young, and hard, you are out of the saddle a lot: pad doesn't apply. When you define riding as tunnel vision, because your brain doesn't supply your lateral retina with blood and oxygen, you don't need a good pad. I've been there.

    At the price Assos is charging, I have to believe they are targeting older, more affluent riders. For my money--and I have no sponsor--I think they hit the spot with the S2 and S5, and overshot with the S7. But if they can get Team Sky to buy the Cento S7 for training rides and Paris-Roubaix, then I'll admit I'm wrong.

    I totally agree. I tried these first doing a bike fit for a new saddle as I had alot of pain in my sit bones the older I got plus genital discomfort. a good move on t part of thestore but being obviously well endowed and forever cutting the chamois padding to allow my self comfort in t seat, I can see why t guy suggested trying them !! I can honestly say if these had been around when I was younger my junk would have been a whole lot happier ! I love t thickness of t pad and hate that diaper feel also. The fact it moves too is great and less chaffing in the inner thighs, but for me the kuku penthouse cut out in t pad allows me boys to sit in comfort and my penis can sit more comfortably on top not have to be swing of f left or up which is so uncomfortable. Now with my new specialised short nose saddle and these my seating position is less rubbing from t chamois on t boys and even though at first the additional rubbing of the shorts on my cock was strange, a few minor angle adjustments on the saddle did t trick.
    When I wear them on a regular saddle length I do feel the boys are we'll cooled but my cock can get a little excited, so if you are a we'll endowed rider try them before you buy as they are pricey, but the guy in t store says they are selling lots to young and older that have a "snake !!
    The straps are fantastically well positioned and feels hardly there on your back.
    We'll done Assos and I have mile 5 and would certainly say they have moved up a notch for sure..save up and buy them you won't regret it !!!!